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**Cerpicio** · 07-29-2003, 10:54 AM

Toolbox combines at 190? Do you have LoY? You should keep looking in the bazaar for the new geerlok ingredients. I think the lowest will get you to 220+ and the highest to 239 (or so).

Some people try to sell Silver Tipped Quills and Waterlogged Rigging for over 100p, but that's just silly. Don't pay more than 20p for them.

I always look for those and coiled springs, save up a couple stacks, and have a little skill-up session.

-- C.

**gnormy** · 07-30-2003, 02:47 PM

LOL - I think the parser is simply tracking which container was being used for the combine by called it a "toolbox combine". Not that he was neccisarily making collapsed toolboxes.

However that 200-200 with 4 success looks suspicious

**Timper Tantrum** · 07-30-2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by gnormy
LOL - I think the parser is simply tracking which container was being used for the combine by called it a "toolbox combine". Not that he was neccisarily making collapsed toolboxes.

However that 200-200 with 4 success looks suspicious

Perhaps you need to study my post a little closer, but I will try to explain.

What parser are you refering to?? I keep track of my combines on a piece of notebook paper

on 7-28-03 I did 71 combines, all Toolboxs and each line shows how many success or failures till the next skill up was received.

my last four combines while i was at skill 200 that day consisted of 4 combines with no skill up ie 200 - 200. you can see by my next entry on 7-30-03 i did 48 toolbox combines and i started this day with skill at 200 and took 9 combines to get to 201. I am logging each combine and what it is toolbox etc for that particular day of tinkering since i sit down and dow a run of several stacks per run.

So if you read over it you will see that to actually get from 200 to 201 it spanned two tinkering sessions and took 13 total combines 4 one day and 9 the other day.

Hope this isnt too confusing for everyone else if it is and there is a better way to report combines/progress please let me know

**PinyonTreedotter** · 08-10-2003, 10:03 AM

I didn't keep track of successes.

I did a mix of Geerloks, Collapsed Containers, Cheirometric Gloves, Clockwork Watchman Armor, Crab Crackers, Woks, Cams, Gnomish Vanishing Devices, etc.

The follow is the number of nontrivial combines at the level indicated. Nearly all were done with 255 INT (cams and gvd were done with a geerlok equipped, and INT at 251).

215 2
216 36
217 106
218 53
219 4
220 18
221 41
222 2
223 28
224 1
225 1
226 7
227 2
228 16
229 15
230 33
231 17
232 13
233 16
234 21
235 45
236 8
237 5
238 11
239 In progress

**Timper Tantrum** · 08-25-2003, 10:48 PM

I sure wish someone could pin down why some skill ups take like 1 or 2 combines and others are taking 20-50 combines. And if you look at my list compared to the last persons list here it doesnt seem to be a particualar skill lvl seems very random.

**Futile** · 08-26-2003, 03:25 AM

well i did gauze presses at like 210ish and got very very little skill ups, like 120 for maybe 8 skill ups. i did the loy geerloks to about 221 which was decent i thought. i started doing toolboxes then and got to 231 from there. i had some left over base prototypes in the bank so i thought i'd clear them out. i got 9 skill ups from 12 combines, never seen skill ups like that. i'd hold off and do those at around 235...got to 240 in seconds. now i just do combines on cams for friends and get my advances.

**Cerpicio** · 08-27-2003, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Timper Tantrum
I sure wish someone could pin down why some skill ups take like 1 or 2 combines and others are taking 20-50 combines. And if you look at my list compared to the last persons list here it doesnt seem to be a particualar skill lvl seems very random.

I may be out on a limb here, but I'm guessing that's why they call it a ... Random Number Generator.

-- C.

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