Tinkering Costs

[haim_po]

Tinkering cost

I went from 102 to 174 tinkering only making geerloks. I did a few (20) combines on the more expensive ggerloks early on to burn components I'd been saving. After that, it's all been brewing. I have been collecting most (all but about 75) of my own mineral blocks. I have lost a net of about 500pp doing that. My char has ~247 int (when KEI-ed), and I only been using the haven amulet for charisma (so the merchant would even speak to me).

The primary reason it cost so little is that I get ~2-3p worth of cash/loot from the netherbians for every block they drop.

kavran
45 gnecro

[Yansabar]

Costs

Its cost me so far to get to a skill of 182 just over 9k

My tinker is lvl 24 a wizzy and has a natural INT of 255 and CHA of 121

I did 38 combines on standard bow cams to skill 75 ( 456p )
I did 33 combines on stalking probes to skill 102 ( 528p )
I did 29 combines on powered gloves to skill 122 ( 1305p )
I did 11 combines on Tinkered catapults to skill 135 ( 605p )

To 135 cost me 1894p all success were sold back to the vendor. I made the bows myself.

From 135 to 182 ive done geerloks.

Cooking utensils
1 attempt 1 success 1 skill up ( 31p )

Fermentations
16 attempts 11 success 4 skill ups ( 48p )

Automated hammers
25 attempts 7 success 4 Skill ups ( 700p ) acrylia was farmed with my bard

Sewing Contraptions
2 attempts 1 success 1 skill up ( 64p ) chitterling barbs farmed myself

Gem setters
82 attempts 41 success 14 skill ups ( 2706p ) all reishi eyes vendor bought

Planing tools
136 attempts 73 success 21 skillups ( 3536p ) all belts vendor bought

Colapsable spits
46 attempts 18 success 2 skill ups ( 181 , 182 ) ( 184p )

Everything was sold back to vendors, except the spits which went to guildies.

So far to skill 182 its cost me 9163p

[atonic]

Astounding advancement

I did 29 combines on powered gloves to skill 122 ( 1305p )
I did 11 combines on Tinkered catapults to skill 135 ( 605p )

Truly amazing that you made 13 skill ups in a mere 11 tries.

My tinkering costs little more than time, when I can spare it. Farming PMBs in neth and doing brewing geerlocks. However, I have managed to sell at least 1k worht of those, so am slowly making a profit

[Yansabar]

gah

gah i was looking at the wrong colum, i got 11 sucess out of >> 35 << tries

so 9163 - 605 = 8558 + 35x55( 1925) = a total of 10483p to get to skill 182.

Now here is the rest


1 attempt 1 success 0 fails ( gem setters ) 33p
183
4 attempts 4 success 0 fails ( gem setters ) 132p
184
3 attempts 2 success 1 fail ( gem setters ) 99p
4 attempts 3 success 1 fail ( planing ) 104p
185
6 attempts 4 success 2 fails ( planing ) 156p
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( fermentation ) 3p
186
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( fermentation ) 3p
187
3 attempts 3 success 0 fail ( fermentation ) 9p
5 attempts 4 success 1 fail ( Innovative cams) 250p
188
5 attempts 5 success 0 fail ( Innovative cams ) 250p
9 attempts 8 success 1 fail ( fermentation ) 27p
3 attempts 1 success 2 fail ( crab crackers ) 12p
2 attempts 1 success 1 fail ( gem setters ) 66p
189
17 attempts 13 success 4 fail ( planing ) 470p
190
5 attempts 4 success 1 fail ( planing ) 130p
191
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( planing ) 26p
192
20 attempts 26 success 3 fail ( planing ) 754p
193
15 attempts 10 success 5 fail ( planing ) 390p
15 attempts 13 success 2 fail ( fermentation ) 45p
194
12 attempts 11 success 1 fail ( fermentation) 36p
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( gem setters ) 33p
10 attempts 7 success 3 fail ( planing ) 260p
195
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( ferm ) 3p
196
2 attempt 2 success 0 fail ( ferm ) 6p
197
2 attempt 2 success 0 fail ( ferm ) 6p
198
3 attempt 3 success 0 fail ( ferm ) 9p
12 attempt 12 success 0 fail ( gem setters ) 396p
40 attempt 33 success 7 fail ( planing ) 1040p
2 attempt 2 success 0 fail ( innovative cams ) 100p
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( wok ) 5p
12 attempt 12 success 0 fail ( collapsable spits ) 60p
29 attempts 26 success 3 fail ( hammers ) 812p
199
26 attempt 23 success 3 fail ( hammers ) 728p
200

that took 6453p to go from 182-200 + the 10483p = 16936p with 717 combines

[Yansabar]

200-215

here is 200 - 215


9 attempts 9 success 0 fail ( hammers ) 252p
201
4 attempt 4 success 0 fail ( hammers ) 112p
202
16 attempt 15 success 1 fail ( hammers ) 448p
203
16 attempt 14 success 2 fail ( hammers ) 448p
204
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( hamemrs ) 28p
205
14 attempt 14 success 0 fail ( hammers ) 392p
206
13 attempt 10 success 3 fail ( gem setters ) 429p
6 attempt 4 success 2 fail ( planing ) 156p
207
9 attempt 9 success 0 fail ( planing ) 234p
1 attemtp 1 success 0 fail ( hammers ) 28p
208
2 attempt 2 success 0 fail ( Crab crackers ) 10p
8 attempt 8 success 0 fail ( spits ) 40p
3 attempts 3 success 0 fails ( hammers ) 84p
209
22 attempts 22 success 0 fails ( hammers ) 616p
210
6 attempts 6 success 0 fails ( hammers ) 168p
211
9 attempt 8 success 1 fail ( hammers ) 252p
1 attemp 1 success 0 fail ( ferm ) 3p
212
21 attempt 19 success 2 fail ( ferm ) 63p
4 attemtp 4 success 0 fail ( palning ) 104p
213
10 attempt 10 success 0 fail ( planing ) 260p
22 attempt 21 success 1 fail ( hammers ) 616p
214
1 attempt 1 success 0 fail ( hammers ) 28p
215

Finally finished with geerloks

total 200-215 is 4771p and 198 combines giving a grand total for 50-215 of

21707p and 915 combines.

This may or may not help anyone else but i thought id post it anyway.

[Sanmaren]

My route to 115 skill

I just started Tinkering this past weekend. I managed to get to 115 skill at a cost of roughly 900pp (WIS 190). The route I've taken so far is as follows:

50-67: Flameless Lantern
67-75: Standard Bow Cam
75-102: Stalking Probe
102-115: Powered Gloves

I'll probably stick with the gloves until they go trivial at 122. Then I have to decide whether to talk a guild ranger into making some bows (for the catapult) or start looking for the Luclin items needed to make geerlok stuff (a LOT cheaper, but slow skill-ups based on what I'm reading here).

One thing I'll do to boost my chances is to take the extra few seconds to swap in my weapon and shield (adds 28 to WIS) while doing the tinkering, and switch back to the +CHA steins (and Shadow Haven faction item as needed) when transacting with vendors.

[Aarial]

Tinkering

I'm doing tinkering right now with a wizzard thats 355 intelligence and the 10 percent tinker robe. I would hazard to guess that we've gotten said wizzard to 205 unmodified for probably a little under 40k.

I spent 12k today from 188 to 205. I was making Geerlock Hammers/Molten Ore Cams. I was paying 45 to 55 per piece of Acrylia and selling them back to the vendors for 13 plat. So depends really.

All in all I would say 250 tinkering probably cost about 100k. I've had some really good streaks.

[Timper Tantrum]

I guess one question here is does it matter to skill up what your making??

Are skill ups any faster making collapsed items or geerloks???

I have 255 int unbuffed and it took me 30-40 combines of Collapsed Toolkits to go from 193 to 195 skill

But i tell you I WILL be keeping track of ALL combines from now on so I can report my progress from 195 here

Im currently doing collapsed toolkits and just selling them back to vendors for 1 copper lots of times as my trader sells them i can just go back to the vendor and grab em for a copper and sell them in bazaar, so the vendor is sorta my storage place for lore items hehe. Anyway the toolkits just seem the least hassle to make.

[Laearya Lifeblood]

Only thing I'd be worried about is someone else finding your storage space

[Axterix EnObelix]

I guess one question here is does it matter to skill up what your making??

Are skill ups any faster making collapsed items or geerloks???

Your chances of a skill up are higher on a success than on a failure. As such, yes, it matters. Typically, stuff closer to getting trivial will give you the best skill up rate.

Of course, availability of parts, cost of parts, and ease of combines can mean that the thing you fail frequently is more effecient to skill up on. And due to the silliness of the success formula, the closeness of the trivial level to your current level becomes less important the higher your skill gets.

[gnormy]

Originally posted by Timper Tantrum
Im currently doing collapsed toolkits and just selling them back to vendors for 1 copper lots of times as my trader sells them i can just go back to the vendor and grab em for a copper and sell them in bazaar, so the vendor is sorta my storage place for lore items hehe.

As enticing as this sounds - DONT DO IT. All it does is gives non-tinkerers access to your products for 1copper. Anytime I find a "stash" like this I buy and destroy them until they are gone. Sounds harsh, but the LORE is what maintains the profit on the items. Go into the bazaar and look at the Geerlocks - you'll see the fletching geerlok for 20p and lots of them. The reason is that tinks have irresponsibly dumped them where others can buy them en masse and attempt to resell. You're only hurting your own sales.

When I was skilling on collapsed toolboxes, it was great. Just keep combining because they automatically lore poof on success.

[Futile]

well, i started tinkering before teh warrior epic was introduced...so getting to the point where rebreathers were trivial back then deffinately put a hole in my pocket. now i think it would be much much cheaper, more along the costs of fletching.

if i were to start again it would be pretty simple:

Flameless Lantern to 68 (2plat per attempt)

Stalking Probe to 102 (16 plat per attempt)

Powered Gloves to 122 (45 plat per attempt)

Tinkered Catapult to 135 (43 plat per attempt) note: much easier if you spend the time to raise your fletching to make these yourself. really easy.

Advanced Propulsion Unit to 162 (use up those catapults!)

Happy Dragon to 187 (use up those Advanced Propulsion Units!)

now i would start on geerloks, try to save your loy components for when you trivial out the luclin ones. clockwork contraptions and automated quills were my main source for skill ups after i hit 215 simply for cost.

another cheap route is doing the collasped toolboxes, hard to find coil springs for a decent rate on my server at times. depends on your server i guess, but the best way for me to do it was to hold onto the first one i made so i wouldn't have to destroy each one. please don't sell tinkered goods to vendors ! ruins the market =\

once at 240 you are golden, 5% mod and you are 250. you'll get it by accident from there

hope that helps, once you get to around 162 then the cost depends on bazaar prices for most of you.

[splunge]

Tell your friends and guildies that if they hunt PoI for ya and bring you X coiled springs/ Y ball bearings/ z pinions etc, youll make them colapsed items, shrinkers, diviners, gauze presses etc. for free. =)

[Ortrillian]

I got my tink to 217 with 235 INT on around 30k. The LoY geerloks are pretty cheap to make especially if you can go farm components. Being a 65 cleric I like to run around on the beach gathering mobs then AE them. I get 1-1.5 stacks in about an hour.