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    I need ideas for a food/beverage concentrator since the darkmatter device proved too hard to program.

    note- other than concentrated values of food items occuring I'm suggesting that certain meals and recipes for meals be allowed to be stored in special tubes or bottles.
    If all one type of food concentration upto max would up level of the item to not be better than one or two ticks in duration above listed.
    Thus a thirst quencher would become a two levels higher once 4-10 of them were concentrated...or another rule of thumb applied...


    This device would be central in the making of the ultimate beverage in game sometime in the future.

    Don't go overboard, but multiple steps and existing items are useable in combinations...get creative tinkers...and maybe you'll get into the great big book of Oops for your work.
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  • #2
    My suggestions

    As a tinkerer, I would want to develop a Pressure Cooker for cooking items and a Keggerator for brewing. For each of these items, there would have to be heating and pressurizing components, a sturdy container to withstand high pressures, and a special *jar* to place the pressurized food/liquid into (ie: Pressure Keg, Hermetically Sealed Jar (read: Mason Jar).

    The concentrated food-stuffs could be called Preserves (ie: Vegetable Preserves) and the drinks can be called Pressurized (ie: Pressurized Ale).

    Of course, this leads to the tinkered Keg Tap and other accessories....
    Last edited by Yammez; 11-30-2006, 01:46 PM.
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    • #3
      How about a Tinkered Dehydrator that would allow food to stack more and weigh less. Then when consumed it would aslo consume another drink. Example...instead of one food item and one drink item consumed in a period it would then be with dehydrated food items...one food item and TWO drink items consumed? Would be a pain in the tukas on drinks but hey IRL they use dehydrated foods and Jerky has been a trail food for centuries.
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      • #4
        Aye something that you put meat in and get back dryed meat which you can use with a smoker and spices to make jerky:-) Would up the food catagory one lvl i.e. from a meal to a hearty meal etc.

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        • #5
          I envision a pressure cooker/steamer but in reverse. instead of cooking with steam it works as a dehydrator

          start off with a casing from PoI same one used for woks, but 2 required because it is a shell.

          add a vacuum pump(cured leather tubing, innovative gears, magnetic ball bearing, vial of gases,coated meshing) and assorted tubing to plumb the vacum pump to the casing, add a metering device though im not sure it exists in game perhaps a subquest for said vacuum relief valve to prevent implosion. can be made by joining a boot gasket and a metal rod and innovative bolts.

          and a heat source, sufficiently close enough to warm the food, but not burn it. Personally I Like a chunk of coal for the duration and smoky flavor it adds to all food.

          this makes dehydrated meat concentrate ie dehydrated cake pie meat foodstuffs

          for beverages it makes not dehydrated but concentrated, and in order to eat or drink these at a longer than normal period, you should carry a stack of water. the food and drinks should stack to 100 as they are concentrated/dehydrated. they only need water to energize them but are consumed at a slightly slower rate than the original food/drink

          as you dehydrate grapes you would get 1 water/1 concentrated grape
          as you concentrate a drink you get water and beverage

          only non-alcoholic beverages can be combined as it contains an open flame and may explode should alcohol come into contact.
          Last edited by Lilsatrn; 12-01-2006, 11:15 PM. Reason: added to previous ideas
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lilsatrn View Post
            concentrated grape
            Some people call those raisins .

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            • #7
              lol ok so yeah i was tired n not thinking real clear on some of my items, but overall i still like the general ideas, concentrated grape hehehe was just my way of showing an example ala dehydrated halas meat pie or concentrated grobb liquidised meat. hmm that stuff allready kinda thick might hafta call it grobb pudding after huh?
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              • #8
                After re-reading Ngreths post, perhaps the vacuum dry isnt what he was looking for, at least it isn't how i envision something being dried, or have water removed from it and placed in a tube.

                Bear with me, but as I work in the oilfield, and centrifuges and water/oil separation is pretty common, to me it is normal. But basicall a high speed centrifuge spins out water from other materials using speed and specific gravities.

                I now have a meal water extractor or meal in a tube well in sight.

                Place your meal into said centrifuge tubes. turn on the steam motor or dark matter infused drive close the top to avoid any sudden stops starts and accidents. and whirl the food till the water is pulled out.

                depending on how many tubes per combine minimum is 4, you would need 8 rods, with 4 bearing surfaces on the end of each rod and one in the center so 5 bearings, one spindle for the rods to spin on, have to research it for the correct component im looking for, 5 gnomish or innovative bolts to hold said rods and spindle together 2 wok casngs to hold the centrifuge, and a steam pump to operate the device.


                so ingredient list atm tho simplified would be a steam or darkmatter pump, 8 rods, 5 bearings, one spindle, 5 bolts make it six since we want the lid to be hinged, 2 casings and of course a hinge for the lid.


                to make the food item you would need 2 tubes or 4, and 4 meals so it would have to be an 8 slot container to = 4 waterless tubed meals, or 4 water spun drinks.
                Last edited by Lilsatrn; 12-04-2006, 06:31 AM.
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                • #9
                  After sleeping on the Idea, it occurs to me that the "spindle" probably doesnt exist as such in eq, and would have to be made. Not that I have any problem with it, but it should be tempered and hardened, as the forces required to spin out the water are indeed powerful. I'm thinking a clockwork gnome shaft x2 forged together and tempered with a smithy hammer and a metallic temper ought to do the trick for that portion of the centrifuge.


                  now for the motor end, is a bit more difficult as the perpetual steam pump is a bit slow, and in my mind not sturdy enough for the speeds we would want to achieve.

                  We need a good powersource and i think Infused darkmatter does fit the bill, add to it the infused gears(infused as we want these parts to be hardened and less able to be corrupted by the darkmatter) and we need a temper/treatment for our ball bearing, spring, tubing as well as a small case for our supply. basically a treated steel casing.

                  As it only makes sense to create the motor itself in stages, lets start with your steel casing. As i have stated most of the items will need a temper, but the area you will have to use the darkmatter in, has to be specially hardened and protected. So casing + celestial temper + water in a forge= containment power suppy.

                  Now the motor itself also needs a bit of hardening prior to final assembly, as the infused gears are allready treated, it is simply a matter of treating the tubing bearing spring and rod. Using coldain velium temper will help offset the heat generated by the motor and should be applied in a forge with a pod of water to help the cool down.

                  Since we are ready to build lets harness some power by useing our tool box
                  and combining the Infused dark matter and our containment casing for the contained power supply.

                  Now we assemble our contained power supply, infused gears, coldain velium ball bearing spring and tubing for our darkmatter induction motor.

                  Lastly you would add the centrifuge to it, and give it a whirl
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                  • #10
                    I'm reading guys and taking notes.
                    Let's try simpler.
                    Combining existing items may be the way to go, if the items are not Flagged to be made once and only once per character type of thing.

                    Esoteric is out- simple is in.
                    IT'd be designed by Catbik the drunken gnome mage and who ever helped him and got into the Great Big Book of Oopps instead of him. (Ohh that'd rankle my whiskers! That wanker going and dying like that before me!~~Catbik Tinkerton about his yet to be named tinkering partner(s))
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                    • #11
                      what i envision ultimately is a container with 8 slots, yes it takes multiple steps and pieces to make it, but all are easily gotten without being flagged anyhow. The particular skill levels for said combines i left to whomever.

                      In what i saw, the infused dark matter became a permanent power source based on it and arcane magic, perhaps a vial of thickened, or viscous mana could be added to illustrate that point.

                      I know you asked for simplicity, So here is as simple as i Know, a wok 4 rods, perpetual steam pump, a bearing and all are held together with shark tubing. I cant make it too much simpler for what I am thinking.
                      Last edited by Lilsatrn; 12-06-2006, 01:32 PM.
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                      • #12
                        ..... sorry double posted
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                        • #13
                          a few more ideas

                          A tinkerer's work is never done! There are many items yet to be invented in EQ by an earnest and clever gnome to make better drinks/foods for the thirsty/hungry adventurer....

                          Yammy's Beverage Blender - make frozen drinks with stats (love margaritas!), power drinks (think veggie, fruit, eggs, Raw Dark Matter), etc...

                          Yammy's Beverage Stein- A slotted container mug with stats/modifier that you add ingredients to make beverages.

                          Yammy's Power Food Condenser - Need a power food bar to go with that drink? This portable device will take those nutritious forages and condense them into a wonderful stat food. Great for all those rangers and druids that are always on the go or have friends that can't take a break from action for a sit-down dinner.
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                          • #14
                            More ideas please - break it down by steps to in your idea/quest build forms please too.

                            Ie Step 1 a) B) C) then = X
                            Step 2 Take X + 1,2,3 = Z
                            Step 3 Take Another item existing?
                            Add Z to item to change function
                            Result Concentrator for Food and beverages

                            Different version for a dehydrator Requires dehydrator and stack of bottles
                            Run it on mana battery
                            Result = dehydrated food or new food (fruit would be raisins etc) And 7 slots of food + bottle (preloaded?) = stack of dehydrated foods and bottle water.

                            Take dehydrated foods (fruits for example) add to egg, sugar syrup, dough and bake in pan and get fruit cake.

                            Mix fruit dehydrated + sugar syrup in oven and get candied fruit...maybe?
                            Quick pick you up for sure.
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                            • #15
                              I have a couple whacky ideas. But I'd like to present it in story/rp format, which I'm working on as time allows. Would this be agreeable or do you just want a quick outline of what to use to make what?
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