Rebreather price change?

[Bushnell]

I am not trying to rat anybody out, but there has been someone selling 49 rebreathers for 875pp for about a week on my server. I have been making rebreathers for years, and the cheapest I can make them with charisma of 200 and careful shopping is 899pp. All the components are bought, except for the fish; I don't see any legitimate way to make them cheaper. Even if someone is somehow a better shopper than I am, at 875 they could not be making any profit. And tonight there is someone else selling three rebreathers for 600pp!!!

Perhaps I am missing something - can anyone tell me what is going on? Is this happening on other servers?

Bushnell

[Trellium]

I would assume they are making them for skillups, and selling at a loss.

[Bushnell]

That is possible, but when fletching and brewing geerloks are sooooooooo much cheaper, that would not be rational. Why would someone invest nearly 50k in making 49 rebreathers, taking up all that room on their trader, when they could get the same amount of skill for like 100pp? Something is not right here........

Bushnell

[Brodybeard]

That is possible, but when fletching and brewing geerloks are sooooooooo much cheaper, that would not be rational. Why would someone invest nearly 50k in making 49 rebreathers, taking up all that room on their trader, when they could get the same amount of skill for like 100pp? Something is not right here........

Bushnell

Maybe the person was using old tinkering skill-up information. The Aqualung used to be one of the suggested items for skilling up to 148 before the Geerlok recipes, etc. became available. And after you've made a ton of Aqualungs, the rebreather is a logical next step.

[Footsore]

Agree, Brody. I think there are a lot of tradeskillers out there who get their recipie knowledge from friends or guildies and, sadly, don't know about this great and wonderful site.

Best example I know of is Jord Meat for skill ups. It seems to be a well known recipie and I sell Jord Meat in the bazaar to folks doing skill ups almost as quickly as I can stock it. But to sell the other pop meats, I generally have to explain the recipies.

[Evram2]

Actually, the fletching and brewing geerloks both require drops to make. There is a point at which an hour of farming is worth more to you than 50k. I would assume that this person is at that point. Selling them in the bazaar for a slight loss is still better than letting them rot, or selling them to an NPC vendor. Placing them just below actual cost ensures that even someone with a tinkerer would do better buying them from you, than they would making their own, increasing the odds that you will actually sell them. If this person set them all at 1k each, most of them may sit and rot on the trader, at 5% below cost, he will probably sell them all eventually. This would probably lower his cost from about 900p each attempt, to about 25p each. Thats actually about the cost of the fletching geerlok without taking into account failures. Frankly, I would probably do this myself, and when I was doing tradeskills a lot, I frequently spent a lot of money to save farming time, as the money I had plenty of, and the time I have less of.

Evram
69 Necromancer of the Brew Masters
GM 250 Tink on Rodcet Nife

[andyhre]

I skilled up my tinker, even in the Geerlok age, on Aqualungs, and then used each to make a rebreather once I maxed out the Aqualung. I would do it again, too. The amount of effort it took, AFTER that to get geerlok ingredients was really annoying, I tfound it much easier to focus on getting money in other ways and "buying" my skill ups with expensive but storebought materials. The failure rate is not so bad, really, and getting to re-use them for a second skill up is a nice feeling.

Also, rebreathers make really nice gifts to warriors without their first epic. And so I made lots of friends, and the rest I sold at a slight profit (ignoring failures).

I also was among the lucky few who had the good fortune to use the Ice Bolt recipe before the trivial was changed, sparing me even more geerloks. Storebought recipes are good things, in my book. I even did a few footwarming boots toward the end, having a friend who was skilling up in smithing make boots and then I used those.


EDIT: I was at 245 fletching when Omens came out and content to stay that way, since the last 5 points had no effect on success, but I did want the title of Expert Fletcher. One night I got Wunshi's cast on me, upping my Dex to 380 and just did shadewood bows. Yes it cost 10K, but it got done. Had I resorted to farming acrylia or making mithril arrows, I'd have never done it.

[Xanafeldier]

That is possible, but when fletching and brewing geerloks are sooooooooo much cheaper, that would not be rational.

You stand a greater chance of getting skill ups by sticking to the next highest trivial item. Skipping from 150 up to a post 200 trivial isn't going to help. Pretend I didn't say that though, let the little tinker bots sweat it out and eat their mains time a little more.

You'd think there would be a renewed interest in rebreathers with new epics. People who didn't bother with epic 1.0 might think differently now and need 2 each for their warriors. I'd recommend buying some of those rebreathers and banking them for resale for a reasonable amount, it'll save you the running around and loss of random fails. Let them do the work and eat the fails. /shrug I don't believe I've ever made a brewing geerlok, I'd buy a few at a time from people dumping them.

[Wodon]

/shrug I don't believe I've ever made a brewing geerlok, I'd buy a few at a time from people dumping them.

Brewing geerloks end up being more or less free, apart from your time, as the gold/plat drops from the mobs add up over the 1 in 3 or 4 drop rate of the porous mineral blocks. Next time I do it I must check how long it took to get them though.

[Mortas]

Brewing geerloks end up being more or less free, apart from your time, as the gold/plat drops from the mobs add up over the 1 in 3 or 4 drop rate of the porous mineral blocks. Next time I do it I must check how long it took to get them though.

I've seen a full clearing of the caves w/only 1 or 2 of the stinking blocks and sometimes gotten none. It's more productive to goto AC and destroy anything that looks like it's even thinking of moving.

(and now I'm stuck @ 198)

[Wodon]

A note for the OP. I've seen rebreathers for sale on the tinkering merchant in pok - price was around 835pp. someone may have bought a bunch of them off a merchant, then dropped the price way low when they didn't sell.

[Sanadila]

Best example I know of is Jord Meat for skill ups. It seems to be a well known recipie and I sell Jord Meat in the bazaar to folks doing skill ups almost as quickly as I can stock it. But to sell the other pop meats, I generally have to explain the recipies.

*laughs* I go throught the bazaar and vendor diving with EQ Traders always up. Anything I see with a tradeskill flag, I look up for recipes. I've found a lot of new recipes that way.