Hard Cap ?

[Hzark]

What is the hard cap (if any) on modified skill?

My skill is currently 242, which makes 254 with 5% modifier for GM needle.

What do I have to get my raw skill up to max out on combine chance, or have I already reached it?

I thought the hard cap was 255, but I just read a post which said it is 252. Another post says it is 244 plus Needle (256).

Anyone got the hard info on this?

[Cravin]

Its 252 there are 3 "programming placeholders" 255 is a progamming Limit I think its either Integer or a word or something been way way to long. I used to know hehehehe. Im sure others can probably clear up the spacific refrence.

[Forthofer]

255 isn't an inherent programming limit.

Although 255 is the largest unsigned integer that can fit in a byte of memory, calculations are generally done with variables that can contain very large integers or decimal numbers.

255 is a limit when values are saved, but that's not the situation here.

Verant programmers may have decided to put the hard cap at 252, but it has nothing to do with the size of a byte.

[Feldaan]

Verant programmers may have decided to put the hard cap at 252, but it has nothing to do with the size of a byte.

Unfortunately, Verant has stated in the past at times of expansion and retuning of classes that they couldn't raise the skill (any skill) caps past 252 due to the database storage they had created at the beginning only allowed for an unsigned int value. Values of 253-255 were said to be used to denote special programmed circumstances such as untrainable, or untrained. Of course, this could have nothing to do with modified skill as verant may have been smart enough to allow for a higher modified skill in the calculations. Although if they did I wouldn't trust any modified skill that fell within the 253-255 range hehe.

edit: going to look into seeing if I can dig up some of those posts from the release of luclin when people were experimenting with % mods of weapon skills they had near 252

[Meirril]

Although 255 is the largest unsigned integer that can fit in a byte of memory, calculations are generally done with variables that can contain very large integers or decimal numbers.

For anyone that realy wants to know, a bite is 2 to the 8th power, which comes out to 256. You can represnet numbers 0-255 in that range (programmers decided long ago that they perfer starting at 0 instead of 1.)

I wouldn't bet that the current program that handles skill +mod% vs trivial of a combine couldn't go over 252, however we don't have any numbers to base a study on. Only suggestion I can make is equip a skill mod item whenever you do combines, but don't kill yourself over getting a better one till we find out for sure.

[Taraddar]

Although 255 is the largest unsigned integer that can fit in a byte of memory, calculations are generally done with variables that can contain very large integers or decimal numbers.

I wouldn't bet that the current program that handles skill +mod% vs trivial of a combine couldn't go over 252, however we don't have any numbers to base a study on. Only suggestion I can make is equip a skill mod item whenever you do combines, but don't kill yourself over getting a better one till we find out for sure.

Personally I don't have hard numbers but can easily say that modified skill doesn't go significantly over 250. Can't really say off hand if it's 252 or 255 but since I have a raw skill of 250 and the vt gloves with 15% mod in them I could theoretically be up to 287 modified skill I'd expect to see a pretty noticable difference on things like mistletoe sickle or cultural over my previous combines at 250 with no skill mods and I don't. That tells me that it doesn't go over 252/255 which ever it is.