Ceremonial Solistice Robe

[noaris]

I can't seem to locate an exact recipe for this robe. I need the robe for a quest I'm doing and I really don't want to pay 1500pp for it in the bazaar.

Can anyone post the recipe or a link that shows what's needed for the componants?

Thanks
Desai

[Lothay]

Use the Recipes link at the top of the page. Then TAILORING > http://eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes...ring.htm#quest Other quest tailoring </a>.

~Lothay

[noaris]

Gen studed chain

So is it better to buy the gem studded chain from a vendor?

[delirium]

I am reasonably sure your message made a few of the regulars on this board sigh and move on. It's not that we don't appreciate or welcome new people, truly... we even love the zeal... Here's a little bit of history.

When this quest came out... the few people who were high level tailors made a fair bit of plat on it... you could _easily_ sell robes for 5kpp or more.. I myself sold a lot of earring sets for 20kpp on Kane Bayle...

Competition being what it is, coupled with the fact that robes aren't a bad skill up route soon flooded the market with a surplus of robes, driving the price way down.

After a few more months, people got tired of having 15 or more robes on their bazaar mules and started lowering the price even MORE on these items driving the price even LOWER (in fact, on Tholuxe at this point, it's not unusual to see them selling BELOW the cost to make them... ).

1400pp is not an unreasonable price for robes... they're a pain to make... but if you insist on not paying it... press on ^^

You need a moderately skilled Blacksmith (to make you silver chains), a very skilled jewelcrafter to make your gemmed chain, along with a cleric or druid of tunare to imbue your emeralds, and a chanter to enchant your silver bars for the worked silver chain. You need a lot of celestial essence, a lot of silk, an embroidery needle (cosy up to your smith or just bang one out yourself, they're not expensive to 'brute force' combine below the trivial...)... oh.. and a potter to make the blessed dust of tunare, some acid and more celestial essence for the dust. Other coincidentals are tunic patterns (both cheap and easy to find), and a sewing kit. Oh, and a pile of emeralds, some rubies and sapphires for your gemmed chain (you only need one chain because it gets returned on failures, used up on success) Tired yet?

If you want my 100% unexpurgated opinion.. you're going to be a lot better off farming for those several hours it would take you to round up the stuff you need for 20 attempts at this robe, to have an average chance of succeeding... and spend the plat to buy one.

Just my opinion of course, and I wish you the very best of luck.

Jeger (65 cleric, Tholuxe Paells 6 bloody points of tailoring off my 1750 )

[noaris]

Thank you.

Thank you, Delirium for that reply. That is exactly the type of info I was looking for. I am a tailor and want to skill up but at the same time I need the robe for a quest so soon I'm gonna attempt to make one......I'm not really looking to have a ton of them in the bazaar maybe one or two but the skillup and quest are my main concern.

Thanks again.

[Cravin]

Not sure where your skill is but I am useing the robes as a skillup tool. any my last run I did approxamatly 350 robe combines made 52 robes and got 15 skillups. So you want to figure on doing at least 20 combines to be sure you get a robe out of the deal. OK lets figure costs to make 20 solstice robe attempts need 126 CES You making them will cost 214PP give or take a couple coppers 63 silks swatches at 10PP per thats 630PP 67 emeralds thats 904PP and 67 jars of acid thats 10PP. now 1 GSC is going to be 255.50PP haveing a jewler with JMC3 or 511.0PP with 250 JC skill. for a cost of 2013PP. now mind yo you can cut out 630PP in costs by farming your own silks. and you still end up just under 1500PP. And your not likely to get a skillup out of 20 combines. Not to say it cant or wont happen but its not likly.

[filobeto]

I'm a 191 tailor, and have used robes to "attempt" skill ups. Have went thru over 200 Emeralds now (bought 100 at a time x 2, and a couple more to cover the sub combineS failures). Don't know the exact amount of combines I got on the robe, >50 though, and I was successful on ONE combine.

Honestly, I cursed my screen because I didn't want to track down another chain..... Oh, and for my effort, I got ZERO skillups.

Get off your wallet and buy the robe for the Earring, you'll thank yourself later.

Robes are priced between 800-1100 on Dro.... silly silly :x

[Liwsa]

Terris-Thule 500-1500pp for robes

[kiatek]

re

unless you want to really really increase your tailoring skill, I would say just lay down the plat. Doing solstice robes takes work, organization, and patience.

For reference, my organization for robes:
skill points 162-200, I did robes in batches of 60ish combines at a time.
~3k in materials (farming your own silk)
1. imbue 8-10 stacks of emeralds
2. While medding for emeralds, make celestial essences (enough for dusts and silks which means 8-10 stacks times 2)
3. Begin making dusts while finishing imbuing.
(lots of times I would start imbuing the night before, set up trader, imbue some more before work when i woke up, then imbue when I got home, this saved me physically waiting at the computer on med time)
4. Farm silks/buy silks
5. Make tunarean silks
6. Make chains (I only had 4 or 5 on hand per combine session until i reached 185 or so, when I started making 10-20 at a session and now at 228, I make 20-40 per session).

I used this approach while VERY inventory slot challenged (no bank space at all and most of my inventory taken up with stuff). YOu have to juggle alot, but space shouldn't be as much of an issue now.

If you really want a success, I would strongly suggest that you get together 40 to 50 combines if your skill is 160-200 range. You could possibly succeed sooner, but it is MUCH easier to get the supplies together once, than to keep repeating (or at least that is my philosophy )

[Taraddar]

Personally I did robes from 187 to 226 tailoring so they are a viable skill up route but if you just want one I'd say buy it. The amount of work and different skills you need is pretty high. Personally I worked off batches of 20. So 60 emeralds, 120 ce's, etc cost for all the vendor bought stuff was slightly over 1k. I was buying the silks in the bazaar which added about 500pp more. Add in chain cost, 275ish for me since I had jcm3 people doing all my chains. Cost for 20 combines ends up being about 2k. To get your cost down below what you said you could buy them for in the bazaar you'd need at least 2 successes out of the 20. In my experience your skill needs to be into the low 200's before you get that success rate. You didn't say what your skill was currently at but if you really want the robes as cheap as possible buy em in the bazaar. If you want to skill up just go ahead and do it.

Personally the robes worked out well for me since I had a lvl 53 druid on my second account so I could do all the imbuing and powdering of the emeralds in my down time while playing my main on the other computer. Even specifically worked his pottery up to 150ish to do the combines. Doing all the combines myself and buying the silks for less than 5pp each or swatches for less than 10pp kept my costs down and I figure I broke even or made money getting my skill up to 226 selling the robes in the bazaar. By that point however you started making a fair amount of robes making it harder to use them for skill ups.

[Myrron]

Same as above, I do my skillup runs in batches of 20.

If you can imbue the emeralds yourself, the emeralds and celestial essences (if you make them yourself) is around 1kpp more or less. A chain attempt is 250pp, expect around a 50% success rate overall. So assuming one chain failure, 20 attempts for 1 robe (5% success rate assumed) costs around 1500, if you farm the 120 silks you need.

I've been using robes to skill up since the mid-170's and there have been plenty of times where I can go for 20 combines and get nothing. Just recently I got 2 robes from 20 attempts, but this was the first time I got 2 in one combine session and my tailoring is nearing 200 now. On my server, I see robes in the bazaar around 2k or so still, so for the time being if you average one success per 20 tries and farm the silks yourself, you tend to break even. But as indicated, robe prices vary a lot so on other servers, it appears that skilling up on robes and selling them is a big loss of money.

--Myrron

[Cravin]

Knowing an Enchanter with JMC3 is the win on robes. You can cut robe costs greatly. I tend to do things in large batches at least as far as sub combines go. on my current bender I gathered enough Silks for 600 robe attempts. then Imbued the emeralds and made the CEs. mind yo I have an account thats 80% tradeskills mules so I have the storage but thats what works for me. That way I can stop off on the way to a raid or EXPing and grab enogh components to do 60 or 80 or 100 combines and just do a combine here and there during the days play time. I am actually starting to get enough robes made that I can allmost break even if i dont buy swatches. altho I am concidering buying another 300 swatches cause that should get me to 250 especially with the 80 Flawless hopper and the 40 Black panther hides I have in the bank.

[Troodon]

Yep, assuming you can get a skilled jewelcrafter to make the chains for you, the only thing at stake when you combine them are your Tunare silks, as a failure will return your chain and needle. I myself am actually using Tunare silk to skill up on and saving my succeses til later. Tunare silk may be a lot more expensive then wu's, but is much less of a PITA. Brewing kiolas bugs the heck out of me because I can't do it in POK (I go back home to Cabilis) and I need 4 per recipe. Plus I have to transfer pearls and vials to my enchanter and back for the mana vials. On Tunare silk recipe requires less ingredients, is simpler, and except for getting the emeralds imbued, can do it all myself with no transferring, all in POK. And I'll need the silks later anyway, hehe.

My guild has a couple 250 JCers who are happy to make anything for guildmemebers free, if they supply all the ingredients, so chains will only cost me about 250pp a piece. And that 250 is never really at risk, I'll either get it back when I fail at a robe, or succesfully make a robe that I can sell to get back at least enough for 4 more chains. So each robe combine, I really only have about 40pp (cost of the emeralds) at risk. Not a bad way to skill up.

Anyway, speaking of POTC, has anyobdy considered treated silk fibres as a skill up path? Assuming you can get a decent supply of dragon eggs (either foraging or being good friends with a forager) and don't mind farming baby spiders, is a relatively simple combine process that's practically free (only need to buy the water for the oil) and can get you all the way to 150. That's almost as high as wu's will get you, cheaper, and much less a PITA! Suprised nobody ever mentions this. This assumes you're good enough of a brewer to make the oil, but brewing is very cheap to get high enough to succeed on oil, that only has about a 122 trivial.

[Hzark]

My guild has a couple 250 JCers who are happy to make anything for guildmemebers free, if they supply all the ingredients, so chains will only cost me about 250pp a piece.

In fact the failure rate for the combine at 250 JC is about 50% unless they also have JC3 AA, so the cost per chain is more like 500p each.

[Taushar]

Cost for 20 combines ends up being about 2k. To get your cost down below what you said you could buy them for in the bazaar you'd need at least 2 successes out of the 20. In my experience your skill needs to be into the low 200's before you get that success rate.

Wait a sec. If you need a second success, don't you have to have another chain? That would add another 250 plus pps to the cost so you would need to make 3 to breakeven. It adds 500pps to the cost but should be able to get that money back with 3 successes per stack of combine.

Taushar