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    I did 113 platinum ribbon combines last night and got 18 skill-ups, 164 - 182 (I'll do the last 5 points tonight ).
    That averages out to 6.2777 combines per skill point. :shock:
    We know The Dev Team reads our posts so I would think they are aware of how easy skilling up has become.
    My advice to any up-and-coming tailors is to jump on this band wagon asap!
    The patch on 4-1-03 might have an "adjustment" for this skill-up path. Let's hope not but........

  • #2
    Hang on a second, let's put this in perspective.

    How much did you pay per combine?

    How much was the sellback per successful combine?

    How often did you succeed or fail?

    What was your net cost? (total spent minus total earned from selling successes)

    What was your net cost per combine? (the last total divided by your number of combines)

    If you ended up with a net profit somehow, then I can see why Sony may wish to fix this. If you ended up with a loss, then I don't see a problem.

    Many other skills have a storebought path into 180's or 190's. Smithing is almost entirely storebought to 188 (barring leather padding and vendors with limited HQ ore). Pottery has casserole dishes (I think, I forget the exact recipe) that's storebought to 199. Baking is storebought to 191, and pretty cheap, too. Heck, brewing is storebought clear through to 248 with Minotaur Hero Brew, if you can stand the wrist aches that's likely to ensue.

    Furthermore, one skillup per six or so combines isn't too unusual under 190 skill. It's after 190 that folks tend to complain about hell levels.

    If memory serves, the platinum ribbons cost over 100pp each alone. This is NOT a cheap way to raise tailoring unless the sellback is VERY close to cost, and you had many successes.

    Any data you have would be appreciated.

    Edited because I hit the submit button halfway through typing
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    • #3
      Sellback prices are a joke. Unless he turned around and was able to sell them to other players at cost, he took a HUGE hit to his bank account. 113 combines - thats 11,300pp+!

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      • #4
        Baking is storebought to 191, and pretty cheap, too.
        eh?? this is the sort of thing you tell me when i'm 46 and just finished Batwing Crunchies!! What on earth can you entirely store-buy to take you to 191??

        Waaaah, now i want to be able to go to LoY and make the ribbons!! Because right now, tailoring is sixth on my list of seven tradeskills... at least JC you can buy your materials, no matter how expensive....

        EDIT: Um. 100p/combine? eep. I think I'll stick with farming griffons.... ^_^ But still, yay for easy skillups?


        one skillup per six or so combines isn't too unusual under 190 skill.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sanna
          Baking is storebought to 191, and pretty cheap, too.
          eh?? this is the sort of thing you tell me when i'm 46 and just finished Batwing Crunchies!! What on earth can you entirely store-buy to take you to 191??
          Filleting meat or fishrolls take you to the 130 area I think ... I don't actually know, after that, though, since they took away the Forager

          one skillup per six or so combines isn't too unusual under 190 skill.
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          What server do you play on?? I think I'm switching. ^_^
          I did 115 greyhoppe combines yesterday and got 40 points out of it. OK, sure, I'm only a 95 skill now, but ~3combines/skillup was really quite nice

          /me wishes it could last

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          • #6
            Yikes!

            I said "might". This is a discussion about what might happen. Please dont shoot me for MHO. I just wanted others to be aware of the patch just in case. I'm not the only one to post how easy these skill ups are.

            It just seems very, very easy. If silver and gold ribbons are as easy to skill up on then I won't be surprised if they do adjust it.

            I did spend 11,865pp on ribbons but I now have 38 platinum teal ribbons and 37 platinum cyan ribbons in the bank. Now to hunt down words of capacity and words of obliteration for the swatches.

            As to cost you have to take into account what the components of an acrylia studded item are worth and how many you have to combine to get a skill up. If this is meant to fix that expense than fantastic. But you never know how SoE is going to change things. :roll:


            P.S. Brewing, baking and pottery do not compare to Smithing, Tailoring, Jewel Craft or even Fletching. It is like comparing apples and oranges

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sanna
              eh?? this is the sort of thing you tell me when i'm 46 and just finished Batwing Crunchies!! What on earth can you entirely store-buy to take you to 191??
              You need to check the FAQ or the recipe section - makes life alot easier.

              http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=489

              Getting to 191

              Jump Ahead
              The cheapest (and I think fastest) route to get to 191 baking:

              Get a filleting knife and a frying pan (both smithed) and park yourself next to a butcher in Thurgadin or Shadowhaven.

              Combine knife and bear or lion meat (fillet of ___, meal) until trivial 143 (traditionally people have done fish fillets, but if you have the knife this is both cheaper and more efficient).

              Buy a ton of cheese from Jagged Pine (as an example, you'll need 40 stacks of cheese to run from 135 skill to 189 with 221 wisdom) and sit back down at a butchers. Note there are two cheese vendors in Jagged Pine, so you can buy whatever your alignment.

              Combine Bear or Lion meat and bread and cheese and Non Stick frying pan (patty melt, banquet) in an oven or spit until trivial 191.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kaidian Blade
                113 combines - thats 11,300pp+!
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that -extremely- cheep compaired to other options for tailoring? (Talking about non-farming, buying from vendors and bazaar)

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                • #9
                  It doesn't seem that it's changed on Test. Last night, I did 30 Steamfont Dye-Platinum-ribbon combines, and got three skillups, from 161 to 164.

                  Since it cost 3000 plat, it doesn't seem out of whack.

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                  • #10
                    Ok, if you think that you will be able to find enough Research Components for the 5th and 6th robes that you have ribbons for, I have a bridge to sell you.

                    Honestly, If i recall correctly, Words of Capacity are a hella-expensive item. Used for decent spells, too.

                    Finding 30 of them would amount to winning that 7 state lottery from some months ago.


                    -Lilosh
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                    • #11
                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that -extremely- cheep compaired to other options for tailoring? (Talking about non-farming, buying from vendors and bazaar)
                      Ever since they took out the Robe market due to undercutting till it is not a viable skill route I have to say yes it is a good route to use the ribbons. I have not wanted to do acrylia as the market is almost totally dead and the cost of acrylia is prohibitive. Velious talioring is not too bad the velium is cheap from vendors all over but the tempers are way to much. dropping 10k on a skill run in tailoring is nothing wait till you get over 200 and are pushing for 250.

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                      • #12
                        I dunno about the robes at this point. I'm getting to 187 before I even think about messin with the robes.

                        The ribbons are a **** good way to get skill up to 187.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lilosh
                          Ok, if you think that you will be able to find enough Research Components for the 5th and 6th robes that you have ribbons for, I have a bridge to sell you.

                          Honestly, If i recall correctly, Words of Capacity are a hella-expensive item. Used for decent spells, too.

                          Finding 30 of them would amount to winning that 7 state lottery from some months ago.


                          -Lilosh
                          I did clearly put a frowning face at the end of that sentence. I am fully aware of all aspects of all my tradeskills. And that is thanks to all who post here and to The DenMother.

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                          • #14
                            Lol Patty melts take you to 191.

                            Go by a few bags of cheese in Jagged pine and then go to thurg buy lion meat and go to town.
                            Sethlic

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                            • #15
                              Sorry. I missed the frowny.


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                              -Lilosh
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