New robes

[Maevenniia]

Hmm....... Two of the new racial robes have the same focus effect on the 6th and final robes..

Human robe
robe of capacity AC 11, DEX 6, STA 6, INT 11, HP 30, mana 20, sv poison 20;wt 0.0, tiny, ALL; NEC, WIZ, MAG, ENC ; focus effect: reagent conservation III; bright green with blue & green trim

and

High Elven robe
robe of virtue AC 11, DEX 2, STA 10, INT 11, HP 25, mana 25, sv cold 20, focus effect: reagent conservation III; wt 0.0, tiny, ALL; WIZ, MAG, ENC, NEC; bright green in color.

Seeing as the other robes have different effects from each other, with only the gnome robe #6 still MIA at this time, I wonder if this is an error, or intentional?

Thoughts?

[Lilosh]

I would /bug it, personally.

-Lilosh

[Pyraxis]

heh

Actually, my problem with it is the fact that we have ID3 on one, regen on another, yet high elves and humans get RC3?????? How about a useful effect? Thanks for making these virtually worthless. All erudites enjoy your new money. Not enough that you already had cultural tailoring already, but you hit the motherload with your robes.

Aw hell. This may be a rant. ******. :?:

Anyway, I'm not going to /bug it. Those stats just make high elves and humans less likely to want to be a GM tailor. And that's better for me.

[Hydian]

In all fairness, Humans and High Elves have cultural smithing whereas Erudites do not. I think that it would be unfair to deny new items to races just because they already have cultural items in that skill.

That said, the effects should be uniformly usefull for all of the robes (of course, looking at the class armor quests, etc...Sony has no interest in such things.)

[PinyonTreedotter]

That said, the effects should be uniformly usefull for all of the robes (of course, looking at the class armor quests, etc...Sony has no interest in such things.)

I disagree. What is the point of having different races if they are all the same? I've been bitten by that for many of my characters (agnostic enchanter, gnomish mage, gnome rogue, iksar monk, & etc). It's diversity that spices up the game !

[Veldin Darkfire]

In all fairness, Humans and High Elves have cultural smithing whereas Erudites do not. I think that it would be unfair to deny new items to races just because they already have cultural items in that skill.

Funny last time I checked Dark Elves had cultural smithing as well as High Elves and thier robe effect blows the High Elf one away flat out.

They should make the humans robe something useful like flowing thought 1 or spell haste 3, and they should make the High Elves robe useful also like mana preservation 3.

Veldin

[Zerlatik Flaimweaver]

RE:...

As a Wizard with Bane spells, I disagree heartily with Pyraxis's assessment of HE and Human robes. As would also, I imagine, any mage with CoH who draws that unfortunate duty on a raid, or a necro that pulls the CR duty. Sure, the uses are more situational than the Erudite or Iksar robes, but there's still going to be some demand for them. Look at how many casters went out and got Kedge Robes after the effects were put in. Even those who are now over 61 still use those sometimes. These two robes strike me as much more useful than Kedge. Even if you charge 11kpp per on these, they will still pay for themselves to any caster who lands a job in a raiding guild.

Zerlatik Flaimweaver
Sorcerer of Tholuxe Paells
"It is up to people like you and me who are out of our tiny little minds to try and help these people overcome their sanity" - Graham Chapman.

[EnragedFilia]

yeah try telling that to the guy that told me reagent conservation doesnt do anything if the spell only takes 1 gem, cause its percentage based...

/eyetwitch

seriously though, reagent conservation is pretty good for situational use

[Goresmash]

As a necro, I can tell you that reagent conservation is a wonderful thing then your on a raid CR. Saving expensive coffins is great.

[Sinuuyanea Nocturne]

As a necro, I can tell you that reagent conservation is a wonderful thing then your on a raid CR. Saving expensive coffins is great.

Actually, I havent bought a coffin in a long while; any raids that need CRs provide their own. Also, and I can speak from experience, while summoning corpses with an Iksar Hide Cap (Reagent Conservation 3), I cast the spell around 30 times, and saved 0 coffins. Give me a 2 point regen anyday! <img src="http://www.boomspeed.com/sinuuyanea/dcrazz.gif" alt="Reagent Conservation sucks!">

[Hydian]

I disagree. What is the point of having different races if they are all the same? I've been bitten by that for many of my characters (agnostic enchanter, gnomish mage, gnome rogue, iksar monk, & etc). It's diversity that spices up the game !

I said equally usefull not the same. There are a lot of usefull effects that could be used and still keep the robes different.

Funny last time I checked Dark Elves had cultural smithing as well as High Elves and thier robe effect blows the High Elf one away flat out.

This had exactly what to do with my comment? I mentioned Erudites because the complaint was that they got arguably the best robes and already had incentive to tailor due to their cultural tailoring.

[Yakk]

Up reagent conservation to 50%, and it becomes equivilent to other focus effects.

At 15%, it really isn't that useful.

[Veldin Darkfire]

This had exactly what to do with my comment? I mentioned Erudites because the complaint was that they got arguably the best robes and already had incentive to tailor due to their cultural tailoring.

It has to do with the fact that High Elves, WHICH you mentioned as having cultural have a middling effect on thier robes. Dark Elves have a great effect on their robes and they DO have Cultural Smithing.

As to Reagent Conseravtion. Most mages dont give a crap about it unless they are doing Banish, which costs 68p per attempt and IF they are going to do that they will just SUMMON themselves a neck item that does the same **** thing as the high elf robe.

Last time I checked High Elves can't be necros So the effect is very lame of them. Necros like that? Switch the Effect on the Dark Elf robe with the High Elf one then

Veldin

[Targonis]

Where's mana preservation, which would work into "robe of capacity" for humans. mana preservation 3 would be desired at least.