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    While I understand it takes time to make database changes, when will the old cultural drops be removed and the new recipes replace them? We have been using the new system for almost a month yet next to none of the recipies reflect the changes.

  • #2
    When people make them and submit new recipes to the submissions board. Why dont you get out there and help instead of bitching about it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Qaladar Bragollach View Post
      When people make them and submit new recipes to the submissions board. Why dont you get out there and help instead of bitching about it.
      Not bitching, much more interested in seeing the old drops changed to reflect their obsolete status for making cultural armor.

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      • #4
        There are 7 recipes per level of cultural armor, or 28 new recipes in total per type, per race. There are up to 4 different types of armor per race and I don't even remember how many different races there but it's a chunk. A quick estimate gives me something over 1,000 new final cultural recipes.

        In addition there are something like 120 (estimate) new template recipes per armor type, for another 480 new recipes.

        Aside from waiting for people to report them, all these recipes also have to be entered into the database. Start typing out all the recipes for just one armor type for your race and see how long it takes.

        In addition to new recipes the people who update the database also have to add what I believe are something like 90 brand new TS items and continually update places where those have dropped, as they are reported.

        Lastly, this is a volunteer site.

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        • #5
          To touch on a few points, I've removed all the old recipes I could find, though I probably missed some. If you find any old recipes in the DB, please post in the submissions forum so we can remove them.

          As for the new recipes, two things have to happen. First, players have to report them. We've had scattered reports in the forum, but by no means do we have a complete listing for every race. The second thing is that they have to be entered. We've just gotten five new data entry volunteers, and that should speed up data entry.

          Xenephex is right. This is a volunteer site, and our volunteers work as hard as they can to make it all work smoothly. I have full confidence that the recipes that are reported will get entered as quickly as we can.

          If you'd like to help, the best thing to do at this point is to check whether your race's recipes are already in the forum, and if they're not, write up a post with those recipes, trivials, etc. so that we can have them all in one convenient spot when it's time to enter them.
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          • #6
            Boring math post.

            Originally posted by Xenephex View Post
            There are 7 recipes per level of cultural armor, or 28 new recipes in total per type, per race. There are up to 4 different types of armor per race and I don't even remember how many different races there but it's a chunk. A quick estimate gives me something over 1,000 new final cultural recipes.

            In addition there are something like 120 (estimate) new template recipes per armor type, for another 480 new recipes.
            In fairness, some of the new subrecipes overlap. Its still a lot of recipes no doubt.

            There are 16 races. 3 of them have all four armor types, 11 have three armor types, and 2 have only two armor types.
            3x4 + 11x3 + 2x2 = 49 cultural armor types


            There are 4 levels of each armor type (soon to be 5) and 7 visible slots for each armor type.
            49x4x7 = 1372 smithed or tailored cultural armor recipes


            Gnomes can also tinker all 7 slots of all 4 levels of their 3 armor types (exactly the same recipe but in a different container and technically a separate database line).
            7x4x3 = 84 tinkered cultural armor recipes
            1372+84 = 1456 unique cultural armor recipes


            There are 11 levels of template recipes (soon to be 13) for each of the 4 armor types and 13 slots for each template.
            11x4x13 = 572 unique template recipes


            There are 17 religions in Everquest. Each religion has 7 augmentations for each of the 4 augmentation levels (soon to be 5).
            17x7x4 = 476 religious augmentations

            There are 4 separate recipes for each religious augmentation (including tinkering again although they can currently only use the ore/loam recipe version).
            476x4 = 1904 unique religious augmentation recipes


            All together I get a lot time and work.
            1456+572+1904 = 3932 unique recipes that need to be updated or added.
            Roanne LeFaye
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            • #7
              Not to nit pick...

              Originally posted by Roanne View Post
              Boring math post.

              There are 17 religions in Everquest. Each religion has 7 augmentations for each of the 4 augmentation levels (soon to be 5).
              17x7x4 = 476 religious augmentations
              Don't mean to nit pick here but Ngreth has stated a couple times that the new augs will actually have 2 new tiers. There will be new augs at 75 and 80 with new armor just at 80.

              Lizath

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