skill up on silk combines

[Elyssanda]

so, skill ups are just harder now, less likely to do so. But you can still make the armor, and the template, and possibly get a skill up?

yes to everything else, but the chance at a skill up is a NEGATIVE number.

[Ryuchitoran]

I'm guessing we can't petition to get our wasted silk back eh?

[silent_hand]

/cry 200 fine silks, 100 combines 0 skill ups. Anymore I save up will have to wait

[Gaell Stormracer]

... on the other hand, your Trophy will still have gotten the XP?

Personally, I'm relieved that my main had already hit 300 before these went live, and the only silk combines I've done have been to make real armour and some templates for Tinkering on Metalofiber combines. Now, did I actually get any skill-ups on THOSE...? (scurries off to check the logs).

EDIT: Yes, that worked:

[Mon Oct 15 19:26:41 2007] You have become better at Tinkering! (289)
[Mon Oct 15 19:26:41 2007] You have fashioned the items together to create something new: Intricate Metalofiber Boots.
[Mon Oct 15 19:26:41 2007] You have fashioned the items together to create something new: Gnomish Heat Source.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Again this ONLY affects the silk TEMPLATES. No other part of the silk path is affected, JSUT the TEMPLATES. Nothing is "remembered" between combines, so there is no memory that you have a "negative" skillup that is carried to the cultural itself.

The cultural itself is still normal, and the higher tier cultural still has the skill gain BONUS.

And yes, at the lower levels of the silk armor where your chances to gain skill are double digest numbers it is just "less" of a chance... but up at the highest end where you only had about a 3% chance to gain a skill normally... the bug then added a -% chance... around -6% to -11%, resulting in an overall negative chance to gain a skillup

The trophy has no idea what your skillup bonus or penalty may be. So just like you do not gain extra trophy exp for combines with bonus skillup chance, the trophy is also not affected by this. So as long as the trophy had a chance by its other rules to gain expo, it will gain exp via these combines.

So again, this ONLY affects the chance to gain skill on the silk TEMPLATE combines.

[mewkus]

Is the fix for this in the patch that was supposed to happen this morning (thursday) but got postponed due to fires? Will it be in the patch when it does come?

[Ngreth Thergn]

Yup. Which sounds like Tuesday.

[Quaras]

Ouch! This is fairly brutal -- have done around 400 combines on the silks. Funny thing is the pristine silk templates still seemed to work but not the fine or excellent. Well, will save some up. Glad I checked here and thanks for letting us know Ngreth.

[Aldier]

Ouch! This is fairly brutal -- have done around 400 combines on the silks. Funny thing is the pristine silk templates still seemed to work but not the fine or excellent. Well, will save some up. Glad I checked here and thanks for letting us know Ngreth.

As was mentioned, the negative % was a modification to the normal chance to skill up. At the lower levels, you have high chances to skill up. Even as far up as Pristine, you probably had a 5-10% chance to skill up, just guessing have not looked at the calculator to determine exact numbers. So even if there was a -3% mod on a 5% chance, you would skill up. When you get to Fine, Excellent, Superb, the chance to skill up is less than the 3% or whatever the value was in the field. Hence, it gives no chance.

[Iliyanya]

I'm guessing we can't petition to get our wasted silk back eh?

Unfortunately I was checking boards often enough either and used 240 pristine and 200 excellent silks for 140 combines of no points. I am curious if there is any possible recovery. If not, I chalk up to not being diligent here. HOwever would be thrilled if there was a way to get soemthign back.

[Ngreth Thergn]

we do not keep good enough logs to track how many combines you made to give any type of refund.

[Quaras]

Did this get fixed in the current patch? Wasnt noted in the message, but I can hope!

[Breez]

Did this get fixed in the current patch? Wasnt noted in the message, but I can hope!

Ditto. I have 250ish silks wasting space in my bank

This go live today?

[Ngreth Thergn]

Yeah, just forgot about it in the patch message... I was well above my head in stuff yesterday and when the draft of the message came around I only gave it a cursory look.

[Desstinee]

Is this fixed on Test Server as well? I did 100 combines today on silks with no skill ups. Am I just having bad luck?

I had 22 pelts and got 2 skillups, but nothing on silks.