Skill ups without tons of subcombines...?

[thanous]

Hi all,

I cant seem to find the guides that used to be around as far as what to make at what skill level etc.

I dont have any tailoring, or any other skill, on my wizzie. My initial goal is to do the coldian shawl quests, but I would like to eventually make the DoN related tailor armor (he is a dakken, 36 at the moment).

I have enough plat, but I really loathe tons of subcombines (I got a smith to 270 something, but I had to make those scimitars that require like 90 subcombines).

Thanks!

[Doremi]

Hi all,

I cant seem to find the guides that used to be around as far as what to make at what skill level etc.

I dont have any tailoring, or any other skill, on my wizzie. My initial goal is to do the coldian shawl quests, but I would like to eventually make the DoN related tailor armor (he is a dakken, 36 at the moment).

I have enough plat, but I really loathe tons of subcombines (I got a smith to 270 something, but I had to make those scimitars that require like 90 subcombines).

Thanks!

Did you see the various entries under Learn A Skill -> Tailoring?

[thanous]

Yes of course I read those.

one of those guides is from 2004, and the rest of them dont answer my question. Hence my post here.

Again, something with like not a ton of subcombines is all I am looking for... there used to be more comprehensive guides on the message boards of this site that dont seem to be here anymore.

[KyrosKrane]

In the Tradeskill Guides forum, you'll find Secone's Complete Tradeskill Guide 3.0. That's likely the most thorough guide you'll find, though not necessarily exactly what you want.

You can also use the Recipe Search on the main site, enter your info, and see what recipes are available, then just browse through them for the ones you like best.

[Kaliaila]

Really if you don't want to do a bunch of subcombines, you have 3 choices.

1. Don't do those recipes find a different recipe around the same trivial and do that one instead. There are a lot of alternatives especially nowadays.
2. Go buy the results of the subcombines in the bazaar.
3. Skill up on the DoN cultural recipes that currently exist before they are changed. You can start making the swatches and move on to making the armors, and then back to swatches. Not sure what the Drakkin components are though. Everything though eventually has some subcombines to do no matter what.

[Aldier]

If you don't like the lists in the tradeskill guides, and disagree with the guide Secone wrote, simply open the quick trivial list and pick items that fit the trivials you want to work from and find combines that do not use a lot of subcombines. Just a note, when you get to higher level skill, A LOT of the simple item combines (ie few subcombines) are going to be real expensive or require rarer dropped components.

[AB-girlie]

from 250 to 282: feran armor + murkglider armor. no subcombines.

282 - 300: othmir furs (295), holgresh furs,mastodon / velium hound, ice burrower silk. those really got a minimum of subcombines.

from 0 - 250 : figure it out .. theres soooo many options.

[Naeeldar]

Actually this one has me kind of curious too. I'm wondering say you had 100-200k in pp to throw into tailoring to go from 170-250+ and 300 preferably what would be the least stressful as in low sub combines and preferably buying the items to level up tailoring?

The thing I hate is that the components are rarely for sale or they require a million subcombines. I'm considering throwing together 300-400 solstice robes since I am about to max jewelery on chains but well I'd hate to do that from 170-250+ maybe even 300. There has to be another way even if it is expensive.

[Zaltak]

The corlantis entrails are good for makeing the E(spelling) power belts.However the plat threads are expensive but you get two combines out of each entrail.Sorry I forget the trival:-P

[Aldier]

Corathus Entrails make Epicthiek Power Belts with only the entrail and a platinum thread and a skinning knife (trivial is 252). Then the Power belts can be made into Small Power belts with another thread, again 252 trivial. Assuming you succeed on the first, you get another attempt at a 262 trivial. This is actually the recommended skillup path from the complete guides and is still in the 4th edition that is being put out as well.

Once those trivial, you are more limited in your options.

*EDIT* Sorry, typos. Also, the Tailoring Clay is a 262 trivial and is very few subcombines as well. That requires farming Wasp Spider Silk from TSS and then using Spider and Spiderling silk.

[Krrak]

Corathus Entrails make Epicthiek Power Belts with only the entrail and a platinum thread and a skinning knife (trivial is 262). Then the Power belts can be made into Small Power belts with another thread, again 262 trivial. Assuming you succeed on the first, you get another attempt at a 262 trivial. This is actually the recommended skillup path from the complete guides and is still in the 4th edition that is being put out as well.

Once those trivial, you are more limited in your options.

Actually according to both the recipe list here at EQTraders and the in game trivial - it's 252 for Corathus Entrails to make Epicthiek Power Belts and again 252 to make Small Power Belts from the Epicthiek's. Not 262

[Naeeldar]

Corathus Entrails make Epicthiek Power Belts with only the entrail and a platinum thread and a skinning knife (trivial is 252). Then the Power belts can be made into Small Power belts with another thread, again 252 trivial. Assuming you succeed on the first, you get another attempt at a 262 trivial. This is actually the recommended skillup path from the complete guides and is still in the 4th edition that is being put out as well.

Once those trivial, you are more limited in your options.

*EDIT* Sorry, typos. Also, the Tailoring Clay is a 262 trivial and is very few subcombines as well. That requires farming Wasp Spider Silk from TSS and then using Spider and Spiderling silk.

Problem I'm finding with entrials is it's a lot of farming and I don't seem to see the entrails for sale in bazaar. Tailoring is highly frustrating in that there is a million subcombines (ceremonial iksar robe sucks cause somecombine is a non stackable) or a ton of farming every other tradeskill you can skill up with tons of pp why can't tailoring be this way?

[JonzeGirl]

Naeeldar, best I could suggest for you is the new TBS tailoring with sunshard pebbles/ores (depending on where your skill is). Everything except the sunshard pebbles/ore is vendor bought ~ can get pricey but the final product sells back for a decent return. Since they are global drops (can drop from any level appropriate mob in any zone) there always seems to be a steady stream available in the bazaar depending on what you are willing to pay. I would guess it would be similar on most servers.

~Clio

[Naeeldar]

Naeeldar, best I could suggest for you is the new TBS tailoring with sunshard pebbles/ores (depending on where your skill is). Everything except the sunshard pebbles/ore is vendor bought ~ can get pricey but the final product sells back for a decent return. Since they are global drops (can drop from any level appropriate mob in any zone) there always seems to be a steady stream available in the bazaar depending on what you are willing to pay. I would guess it would be similar on most servers.

~Clio

I'll have to check that out. RIght now my tailoring is at 170. Sigh I have always hated farming for tradeskilling farming for pp or bazaarring I don't mind but the million othmir fur things is crap.

I'll look into the TSS thanks.

[melkorr]

I have always hated farming for tradeskilling farming for pp or bazaarring

Um, no offense, but those are basically the only alternatives for pretty much any tradeskill, especially tailoring. Either you get it yourself, or you get plat and buy it. The only tradeskill that seems to be different is baking; I got to 300 baking with 20k plat and about 10 hours of play time. Other than that, other tradeskills are massive time/plat sinks.