How, as a dwarf, do I skill up tailoring?

[Kibber]

I'm a lvl 70 Dwarf Paladin, at 264 tailoring.

I've been killing othmirs by the 100's and even made prepared sporali skins for skill ups, but this is all insanely slow. I looked through the quick trivial list, and really, I have little to no idea as to what to skill up in once I get to 268, where I have to have 4 (FOUR) othmir pelts pr combine attempt.

Is there any slightly less insanely slow time consuming way for me to skill up? I mean, like making stuff out of shissar scales as some races can?

Kibber, The Rathe

[Diani]

First of all, skilling tailoring past 250 is insanely slow regardless.

Second, as a dwarf you dont have cultural tailoring leaving only tailored symbols available for you. At 264 you need to make master or grandmaster symbols for skilling up and for neither the components are cheap or readily available.

Third, although it wont be cheap or easy, you can do as I do and try making some pop tailoring stuff. Also here it can suck to collect the stuff bigtime. Stormriders tunic tributes for a little over 20k (that being the main reason I make them cause I always forget to turn of tribute)

fourth, again expensive but maybe easier to get the stuff...Holgresh thingies.

Probably others have more suggestions, maybe even better.

[Kibber]

Tailoring master augments require nightmare arachnid silks, which is almost a sillier past time for a paladin to farm than othmir pelts, heh!

Seems to me Holgresh furs are even more rare than Othmir pelts?

However, I hadn't thought too much about the PoP tailored stuff... I'll give that a go.

Kibber

[Deedolith]

I found that holgresh furs come far slower than othmir furs, du to the lower number of them in the caves, and others spread all around WL.
So I suggest sticking on othmirs.

[AB-girlie]

otters, holgresh, velium hound, velium mastodon, ice burrowers..those are the "easy" ones.
some pop recipies are very nice for tribute but the subcombines..omg /
if your CoV faction is oki,then west wastes might be an option. lotta mobs and hardly any ppl there. ice burrowers can still be nasty at 70 though,as they got tons of hp. enjoy

[Elmarnieh]

I do a circle, go into CS kill off drakes and wyverns, down through Skyshrine foraging drake eggs and out into WL, forage Yew leaves as I kill the raptors then holgresh then back up CS to mow through SG for some Crushed Diamond dust and a Fellspine kill then into the meat of WW for Ice Burrowes and all and foraging tufts, sometimes annoying dragons add but thats just more loot and a chance at dragon meat. When I get bored of WW or I have to cover too much ground between Mastadon / Velium Hound/ Ice Burrowers I repeat the loop.

Makes it a little less boring.

[Baxter]

There are also some really expensive ways to skill up. Look into making chronal, discordant, bazu, last blood seals. These can be used to skill up tailoring and smithing, but they cost over 1kpp per combine depending on costs on your server, and you wont be able to sell most of them in baz, as nobody will ever need as many as you will make if you choose this route, so your screwed on the plat loss. They dont tribute either =)

[Baxter]

They seem to have a higher skill up percentage though =)

oops, that was supposed to be in the last post.

[Ayida]

Expensive is right...

Yes, those are expensive ways.

All you need is approximately 3,200 plat for the rubies, the platinum thread, etc, and a nice source for the rare drop that each combine requires.

If you get a solid skill-up per 20 combines, from 252 to 300 will cost you 3,072,000 platinum from vendor bought stuff (approximately), As Well As the 48 stacks of the rare drop that each combine requires.

There is no good path to 300 tailoring unless you are one of the lucky few races that can farm shissar scales for DoN cultural.

At 10 othmir furs per hour, you are looking at over 400 hours, probably closer to 500 hours of constant farming of green mobs with limited numbers, slow respawn, and tediously slow drops in order to skill from 252 to 300.

There are "alternatives" if you are one of the "lucky" races like Dark Elves, and I use both terms advisedly. Farming Nightmare Arachnid silks isn't much better than Othmir furs, the mobs are much harder to kill and you end up dragging other poor people into groups there to the point where people see you and flinch.

If you are a halfling or one of the other races, like dwarves, you can't even do it if you're a complete fanatic with no life outside of farming in EQ. 400 hours of farming Othmir / Holgresh / whatever, OR 3million+ plat and access to a large number of rare DodH drops. A raiding guild might be able to provide you the number of drops you need if you're a member of one and they wish to fund a dwarven tailor, but it's much cheaper to pick a human and AE Ssra Temple a couple hundred times if you think you really need a 300 tailor.

If you are a serious player of EQ with 20 hours a week to play, and you decide to devote an entire 50% of your available "fun time" to farming green mobs with slow respawns and pitiful drops to get to 300 tailoring, then you will spend 10 hours per week for 40 to 50 weeks to have a serious shot at it.

Meanwhile the person next to you is using that 10 hours to get an additional 533 AA over the same period of time, along with the resulting loot drops that result from it, or they're raiding and getting even better drops, etc.

Or they decided to start a new toon that was a human druid/ranger of karana, leveled it to 70, and got to 300 in all tradeskills in approximately 200 hours total, with maxxed out trophies.

Consider that it took me less than 160 hours total to skill up Baking, Pottery, Jewelcraft, Smithing, Brewing to 300, along with Fletching to 282, and Tailoring to 243. I considered that a worthwhile and fun / interesting way of spending my time in the game. When I re-activated a character three weeks ago, I got all 7 of my new PoR tradeskill trophies in about 20-28 hours, and that was not too unreasonable as well.

Now consider spending three times that 160 hours to get to 300 tailoring alone, and decide if it is worth the investment to you. I know where I drew the line.

A lot of people have been yelling about this for over a year now, there haven't been any changes, don't expect any changes anytime soon. The people you can talk to about it don't have the authority to make the changes, there is no use in picking on them, including in CS. I know, I canceled 3 accounts over this last summer and wrote them a long detailed letter, and never got a response.

By the time a "reasonable" tailoring path to 300 is released, the game will have level 80 characters, and the worthwhile tradeskill items will have trivials of over 400 regularly. And the cap will be bumped to 350, so you'll need to reinvest to get to the new caps....

Good luck, and good night.

[Queletan]

Yeah we're kind of unlucky when it comes to tailoring. On the plus side, we can make our charms fairly cheaply

I did Othmir, holgresh, and some Nightmare armor until ~285, then I stuck to just othmir to save up the rest of my combines for when Othmir/Nightmare went trivial at 295. I also did some Masters Arm/BP/Leg augs (arm trivials at 290). I actually got impatient at 294 and decided not to wait for more othmir fur. from 296-300 I did

Bazu (Magnificent hide), Discordant (Mottled Hide), and Chronal (Shimmering Silk) seals
Holgresh Cloaks
Velium hound cloaks
Mastodon cloaks (only a couple, they're pricey)
Masters Augs (Nightmare Silk x2, Crushed Diamond dust)
Grandmaster Augs (Glossy Drake Hide, Purescale Ore)

The GM augs I only did because I was at 299 and desparate for the last point, heh.. plus I could actually turn a profit for a change. I bought pretty much everything (used my enchanter to make the vials of mana I needed), I was paying up to 650pp per hide, so the seals were actually cheaper, if I could get them for ~1500 or less.

There's Storm/Elemental armors as well, but they can be kind of pricey.. I'd say Earth would be the best to farm, since you can get most everything you need at the ZI, except for mephit blood. I doubt its faster than othmir tho, but I never had the patience for farming greens after I finished with shadowscream armor.

Good luck in your quest.

Q

[AbyssalMage]

As a Dwarf....

I would recomend the GM Aug route. At least on Prexus they sell for 30-40k depending how low your willing to part with them. As far as i've read(and please correct me if i'm wrong) GM Aug's like ther Armour have a success cap on them of 70%?(265+master aa's+geerlock) will get you to success cap. Also thought they had an inherent 10% chance to skill up. If all of the above is true...
This would be your fastest route time wise. You could make Aug's at slightly above cost for a 30-90% profit depending how much you purchase the scale's for. Also at level 70 depending on gear and friends you can probally sit in a DoN instance and farm the hides to lower the cost. Although this route may require more bazaar time you can at least interact with living people while you auction your wear's.

[Avalin]

Yes, those are expensive ways.

All you need is approximately 3,200 plat for the rubies, the platinum thread, etc, and a nice source for the rare drop that each combine requires.

If you get a solid skill-up per 20 combines, from 252 to 300 will cost you 3,072,000 platinum from vendor bought stuff (approximately), As Well As the 48 stacks of the rare drop that each combine requires.

but they sell back to a vendor for around 1k each

[Bodand]

From a 300 skill Tailoring Dwarf - Xegony Server

I did othmirs in Cobalt Scar right to 295 skill. It took months and months (6)but I actually made quite a bit of platinum doing this. I used my AOE cleric nukes and my 70 chanter just chained stunned them. Can gather all the othmirs at each camp....bring them to chanter and AOE them down in a couple rounds. Can clear all 3 camps before respawn. I was averaging 18 othmir furs an hour. Eventually I collected about 4800 Othmir furs and actually used 4400 furs to max at 295. Sold the leftovers for 499 plat each and they were scarffed up in 2 days. I had a third toon logged in who never did any damage to the othmirs preserving his othmir faction but he was grouped and looted all the loot drops and sold to the othmir vendor all the loots. I made about 10K a day just from the gems and armors that dropped. I used all the runes that dropped to level up my wizzy in research to 182 pretty quickly. Pages that dropped leveled my necromancer to 182 pretty quickly too.

After Cobalt scar I went to Wakening lands and farm the Holgresh Caves for Holgresh furs. Maxed at 300 and then I have been doing Holgresh fur cloaks on my level 6 trophy. Im currently at 65% on level 6 trophy. You can farm 10 furs an hour regularly in the caves and courtyard outside. A few more per hour will drop if you have a second toon that can farm the panther run just past Kael giants. About 6 or 7 more holgresh run around there. Druid/Ranger/Bard is best for this to nail down the respawns quickly.
The holgresh respawn about every 15 minutes. Eleven holgresh are in the cave and 4 more spawn outside. If ya do it right thats 60 spawns an hour. Average 1 holgresh fur per 6 to 8 kills. Some kills get ya two furs.

Unless you have millions of plat in the bank you will never likely get the 20-25 combines per skill up point required doing other tailoring skill ups.

Worst run of luck was 69 combines= 276 othmir furs...no skill up.
Best run was 4 skill ups in 12 othmir fur combines.

And both Othmir and Holgresh fur cloaks tribute for a nice amount.

Jewelcraft 300 + Mastery 3 + 15%Trophy
Smithing 300 + Mastery 3 + 15% Trophy
Brewing 300 + Mastery 3+ 15% Trophy
Pottery 300 + Mastery 3 + 15% Trophy
Baking 300 + Mastery 3 + 15% Trophy
Tailoring 300 + Mastery 3 + 12% Trophy 65%
Fletching 286 + Mastery 3 + 12% Trophy

Alts:
Alchemy 300 + 15% Trophy
Tinkering 300 + 12% Trophy 40%
Poison Making 300 +12% Trophy

[Ndaara]

i quit trying to skill up in tailoring and did GM augs to 300. bought mastery 3, got to 252 with velious tailoring, then invested in drake hides as i could afford them.

tailoring paid for itself, but i wasn't in any kind of hurry. my notes show me skilling up to 253 tailoring on Feb 25, 2006, and i'd done a handful of GM augs to get there. hit 300 on June 11, 2006. i thought that was pretty fast, really.

the ONLY time i did tailoring purely for the sake of skill, was the 3 or 4 times i managed to collect a few othmir furs, or storm volaas hairs, or something else that would be skill. the rest of the time, i ONLY made augs to replenish the supply on my trader. well, i also had to make an extra few augs when i hit 299 because i ... well, i just had to =p

during the skilling up, i kept a full set of 7 augs, in 5 different deities. which 5 deities changed a few times over the months, depending on requests, for a total of 40 slots devoted to augs. i got TONS of requests but it's all slowing down now... i am not sure if this would be lucrative any longer.

mostly i wanted to say, that tailoring via GM augs was one of the most pleasant tradeskilling experiences i have had. i came here to look for ways to coax my tailoring trophy up to level 6, and maybe eventually level 7. looks like more GM augs is the best route.

if they will still sell, i highly recommend this route. if you're on the nameless, though, please pick some deities i'm not already selling =p