Trophy Question

[Jalexa]

Pardon the newbness of this, I'm not really new, but I've been gone for 4 years so I FEEL new!

I started the tailoring trophy quest a while ago when my skill was in the 90's, so I have the lowest level quest. Well, that rawhide gorget is hard to get at my level (I was 15 at the time, about to hit 18 and try Lavastorm.) So I've been levelling and tailoring off and on. I'm up to 158 now, should I start the quest all over again or can I still turn in the low level quest items?

It's late and I'm tired, I hope this makes sense!

[Fannon Swordmaster]

As my understanding goes, your trophy will evolve to your level as you hit the 50point milestones. (ie, it will automatically evolve once you hit 200, even if the trophy isn't at 100% yet.. but don't quote me on that) As far as going from 90s to 150+ durring the task, I don't know if you'll get the level 3 certificate with your trophy or not.

[Jalexa]

I didn't - so I'm starting over!

Thanks for the reply!

[Gorse]

Pardon the newbness of this, I'm not really new, but I've been gone for 4 years so I FEEL new!

I started the tailoring trophy quest a while ago when my skill was in the 90's, so I have the lowest level quest. Well, that rawhide gorget is hard to get at my level (I was 15 at the time, about to hit 18 and try Lavastorm.) So I've been levelling and tailoring off and on. I'm up to 158 now, should I start the quest all over again or can I still turn in the low level quest items?

It's late and I'm tired, I hope this makes sense!

If you complete the quest now you should only get the level trophy that you qyest for, thus 1/7.

I have completed the 3/7 trophy. I had no problems and had nearly the same skill level (162 not including 5% from geerlok). You still need to do the Gorget for the 3/7 trophy.

One thing to note though, is that trophys that are in a tier below your current level, evolve much faster. (The ogre mentioned 11 x as fast for 1 tier below, and then I think it was 21 x as fast for 2 tiers, and 31 x as fast for 3 tiers.) Thus, if you already have some ore all of the trophy completed, the trophy will be catching up quickly.

When you complete the quest, your trophy will be automatically advanced to reflect your current skill level. Thus, completing the level 3/7 trophy quest now, you will get a 1/7 trophy and a certificate. Equip the 1/7 trophy and put the certifiate into a tailoring kit and click combine. The trophy will now be a 3/7 trophy and will be advanced to 16% (based on 158 skill).

I do not know what will happen if you get a 1/7 trophy now. I would think two choices would happen, either it would completely upgrade to your current skill level, or it would become a 1/7 trophy that would advance to 100% (thus becoming a 2/7 and then have to level up from there).

I think the best choice would be to do the new quest, but if you have the items in would be worth it to turn in, get the trophy. and then explain what happened (so other know). Worst case, if it is NOT maxed out, then you can destroy it and start the 3/7 quest.



Gorse

[KyrosKrane]

As my understanding goes, your trophy will evolve to your level as you hit the 50point milestones. (ie, it will automatically evolve once you hit 200, even if the trophy isn't at 100% yet.. but don't quote me on that)

This is NOT correct. The trophy will evolve at an accelerated rate as you do non-trivial combines, but it doesn't automatically evolve to the next level.

As far as going from 90s to 150+ durring the task, I don't know if you'll get the level 3 certificate with your trophy or not.

You'll get the level 1 certificate. In your shoes, I'd drop the task and get a new one for the higher-level certificate, but that's just me.

[Ngreth Thergn]

One thing to note though, is that trophys that are in a tier below your current level, evolve much faster. (The ogre mentioned 11 x as fast for 1 tier below, and then I think it was 21 x as fast for 2 tiers, and 31 x as fast for 3 tiers.) Thus, if you already have some ore all of the trophy completed, the trophy will be catching up quickly.

Gorse

correct.

This is one of the main reasons I did this. For folks that get off kilter with skill vs trophy.

If for some reason you have only a beginner and get skill 300... first combine will get you a 2, next one or two a 3, only a few a 4, then it will slow down some since the multipliers are smaller and the trophy needs more exp, but it is still accelerated by large amount.

[Gorse]

You'll get the level 1 certificate. In your shoes, I'd drop the task and get a new one for the higher-level certificate, but that's just me.

If he has the items I would still like to see what happens.

When you earn your trophy, the certificate will automatically advance in % to match your skill. Say he completed the task and was at a raw skill level of 99. The trophy would automatically advance to 98%.

It would make sense that it would automatically advance to 100% if he was at 100.

I think it would be worth investigating if it would then advance furhter if skill was higher. I'll work one for an alt of over the weekend to test and see what happens, unless someone else beats me to it.


Gorse

[Ozadar]

I have a problem with my trophy too. Made it with 195 skill and when I got those whopping 7 points with 50 attempts, it brought my tailoring to 202. Trophy is around 76%. What the heck? I would expect it to have been at 90% when I made it and the 50 skill-ups pushing it close to 100% or more. One reason I have not skilled up tailoring since then. I probably need to /petition it.

Ozadar of the 70th Corpse
Erudite Tradeskiller of Zek
Member of 1450 Club

Baking - 237
Brewing - 250
Fletching - 202
Jewelry - 253
Pottery - 219
Smithing - 227
Tailoring - 202
Research - 200
Fishing - 200

(+5-8% to all skills) + Salvage 3

[Ozadar]

Update. I did /petition it and SOE basically declared impotence with the issue. Their response was

"This is GM Itasma. I understand you want your trophy to be evolved to the proper creation point. In such a case we GMs are unable to assist you with the issue as we cannot modify in game items. I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Please seek assistance from fellow players."

Well, if GMs don't have the power to modify in game items . . . and they say seek assistance from fellow players . . . sounds like SOE is giving the thumbs-up to hack the game. Anybody know how to hack a Tailoring Trophy?


Ozadar of the 70th Corpse
Erudite Tradeskiller of Zek
Member of 1450 Club

Baking - 248
Brewing - 250
Fletching - 202
Jewelry - 253
Pottery - 219
Smithing - 227
Tailoring - 202
Research - 200
Fishing - 200

(+5-8% to all skills) + Salvage 3

[KyrosKrane]

Was your unmodified skill 195 when you successfully made the trophy?

[Ozadar]

Yes, 195 was my unmodified skill. I always quote my skills as such.

Ozadar of the 70th Corpse
Erudite Tradeskiller of Zek
Member of 1450 Club

Baking - 252
Brewing - 250
Fletching - 202
Jewelry - 253
Pottery - 222
Smithing - 227
Tailoring - 202
Research - 200
Fishing - 200

(+5-8% to all skills) + Salvage 3

[Gorse]

My understanding is that while GMs can create a new item, they cannot adjust the evolving phase, so if they replaced your trophy it would be back at 0%, which you don't want.

Because your skill is now at a higher tier than your trophy, the trophy will evolve at 11 times the rate it does at the same tier. As such your torphy will now evolve at 1% or more every combine. While it is an inconvenience to do 24 or less combines, it is a small one, and it will be caught to your current tier.




Gorse

[Ozadar]

Too bad they can't consider my 40-50 successful combines since making the trophy at 195 skill and just give me a new Journeyman Trophy. As such, sure am glad I made about half of my trophies at 200 skill.

Ozadar of the 70th Corpse
Erudite Tradeskiller of Zek
Member of 1450 Club

Baking - 252
Brewing - 250
Fletching - 202
Jewelry - 253
Pottery - 222
Smithing - 227
Tailoring - 202
Research - 200
Fishing - 200

(+5-8% to all skills) + Salvage 3