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    Hey People

    I have a skill of 177 in tailoring and am still doing Acrylia Studded gear. I have done about 50 combines now without any Skill advancement. I know they are trival at 188 so that is not the problem and my wis is at 280. is this just a really bad run of luck or is tailoring based on any other stat?

    Thanks in advance
    Griksh
    65 Savage Lord
    FV Server

    Go on.. bite me

  • #2
    I regret to tell you 50 combines is < to most I would assume> not even considered a "bad run" but NORMAL.

    Again sad to say, it just gets worse usually, still stick it out, it is worth it

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    • #3
      oh..forgot to ask, is Tailoring considered a Hard tradeskill? common sense would say yes, but i just wanted to Check.

      Go on.. bite me

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      • #4
        I would say yes, probably Tailoring is the hardest.

        I would also say that I have not found 50 with no skill up to be normal.
        I'm on 182 at the moment and I dont think that I have gone longer than 30 with no skill up and most have come faster than than (Int 255).
        On the other hand I would not say that a run of 50 is outside the realms of the RNG or even particularly unusual.

        You may want to look at LoY ribbons as an alternate skill up route.
        Remeber you do not have to do your cultures
        I found the Steam Dye easiest to come by and that will take you to 182 :-)

        HTH

        Jarak.

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        • #5
          Get your Wis up to 305, that should help. And equip a Geerlok. With 305 Wis, you should get about 1 skill-up in 25 combines if the combine succeeds, 1 in 50 if the combine fails. That's after you hit the wall at 190 skill, before that your skill-ups should be somewhat more frequent.
          Last edited by Zolina; 06-17-2004, 11:07 AM.

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          • #6
            The closer you get to 200, the more common runs like that will become. I went 300+ combines without a skill up and then 200+ several times. Could have been bad luck on my part, but it was just a way to common occurrence for me to write it off as bad luck.

            Galain ~ Talionis ~ Prexus

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            • #7
              Tailoring was the most painful one to get to 250. It was also the most expensive.

              Magelo

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              • #8
                I would do cultural stuff if Vah Shir had any cultural things to do. Ribbons are way to expensive for me and require a lot of foraging which i do not have access to, a believe me, i'm no paying the silly bazaar prices.

                Guess i'll just have to soldier on.

                Go on.. bite me

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                • #9
                  Err a couple of misconceptions there.

                  First the unarguable one. You dont need to forrage to get the dyes (well not all of them any way) The steam dye is made from steamfont spring water which drops off the level 7-10 (?) Kobablds and some other mobs in Steamfont mnts. one in 10 (avrg) of the Grizzban (??SP) kobalds drop the water. There is one large camp of them with 20 spawns. They are on a 5 min spawn, meaning that you can easilly get a stack of water an hour.

                  Next the arguable one. Ribbons are "expensive". Well at a cost of ~75pp a sucess and 100pp a fail the ribbons do cost a lot, but then you can do at least 20 attempts from 1 hour of farming. (+ the plat) so they are time-cheap

                  Also look at the real cost of doing acrilya studded. Sure you can farm all the pieces but how long does it take ? and how much could you sell the components for ? I know on FV I could sell the components for a single Acrilyia combine and get enought pp to do 2 ribbon combines. So go figure.

                  HTH

                  Jarak

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                  • #10
                    Yes, in my opinion tailoring is the hardest tradeskill.

                    A run of 50 with no combines, that is definately not unusual. I've gone as many as 70 with tailoring, 90 on other tradeskills. I've heard of people doing 100+ like the above poster, which is also still possible, but way more rare. One shaman claimed over 1000+ which i do not believe, but, well you can see there are some incredibly bad streaks.

                    And ribbons are a good skill up path. I seemed to get more skillups per combine on ribbons than on anything else. Steamfont spring water is easy to get like an above poster suggests. You can sell ribbons back to merchants for some of the cost, or take the longer approach and sell them in bazaar. I buy peoples made cyan and teal ribbons when i can (human's colors).

                    Acrylia armor is probably the worst path timewise, if you are farming. You have to spend long boring hours farming acrylia, smithing them into studs... and long boring hours farming superb rockhopper pelts.

                    I'd almost say farming velium and selling pieces at 75-80pp (or just plat farming in general) and purchasing ribbon components, would be a faster way than farming for acrylia and pelts.

                    Edit: Also, get a geerlok and try to get wis to 305 when doing this, buy a set of wis gear if you have to. Over time this will add many skillup/combine and really cut down on your skillup time.
                    Last edited by Merts; 06-20-2004, 08:00 AM.
                    Mertine
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                    • #11
                      I've had one run of about 80 combines with no skillup. Other than that, I've never gone over 20 without a skillup. just went from 224 to 238 on 146 combines of cultural robes. That is with 300 wis. Doing Smithing, I had a LOT worse runs, longest being 347. However, I only had 255 wis at the time so perhaps that's why smithing seemed harder. Also, I skilled smithing in the pre-EVB, pre-LDON armor period, so perhaps its easier today.

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                      • #12
                        i did 134 solcetice robe combines to get from 198~199. it was painful but more painful for my druid friend that imbued over 400 emeralds for me : )

                        naurai papertankgirl 65th Forest Stalker of Tunare
                        *fletching 202 *alcohol tolerance 200
                        deadbabe needzrezz 52nd Heretic of Innorruk
                        *baking 200 *smithing 150 *tailoring 208 *brewing 200 *pottery 179 *research 178 *fishing 194

                        luclin server

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                        • #13
                          thanks for the advise and knowing that i am not alone with the horrible number of combines has helped. I have now broken that "bad run" as i got 178 last night doing ribbions.

                          Thanks for the post about where to get the Streamfont spring water, i'll try that tonight. As for the farming side of Acrylia studded gear, it ws not all that bad. Whilst farming HQ's from a younger age, i collected many many Superbs and Flawless in preparation for the higher level combines. I think i now have something silly like 100 flawless hides from once i break the 220 mark. It won't get me to the trival but hey, it's a start and at least i can sell the gear after.

                          With the Acrylia, a solo 65 bst farming in acrylia caverns is surprising fast, easy and very profitable. the runes that drop there (non-tradeskill) sell from about 1-5pp each and several drop on each mob as well as couple of weapons which sell to merchants for 150pp. The runes stack and are light weight, so i normally go to AC with totaly empty bags and farm until i'm full of acrylia. 1-2 hours normally see's me full of acrylia with an additional 1500pp in my pocket from selling the weapons and runes.

                          THe exp in AC is not bad either, i normally take 2-3 guildies with me and do a bit of PLing whist i'm there. Thery get the Exp i get more acrylia. everyone's happy. Being GMT also, the zone is always empty and so mobs are plentiful and the aa experience although no where great, it still moves. Plus collect 8 perfect acrylia shards and get a 750pp bonus.

                          So as you see it's not all bad, just a bit slow.

                          Go on.. bite me

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                          • #14
                            I did 160 combines yesterday of the 222 trivial Human cultural robes with 0 skillups. This was at 204 skill and WIS of 305. I was bummed. Now I am going to do some more Solstice robe combines. Once I get to 212, I will go back to the cultural if I can find more Essence of Rathe.

                            Baldary

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                            • #15
                              I'll second that evaluation of farming in AC, it's easy, profitable and the xp soloing inner AC isn't bad at all, especially compared with most tradeskill farming camps.

                              50 with no skill ups is a bit much at your skill lvl, but still just a run of moderately bad luck. Currently I'm on 219, having done 120+ combines so far without moving up. Now my mules are overflowing with reinforced acrylia until it all sells (except for the worthless masks I never make), so now I'm prepping a run of wyvern armor that's going to get turned in to the tribute master.
                              Savage Spirit Sharrien Dreamstalker the Kraftin Kitty, Master Artisan
                              Primal Elementalist Ravingronn Blazewarden, Master Artisan, Master Researcher
                              Celestial Navigators, Maelin Starpyre

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