hopper hides

[mewkus]

From my time spent killing hoppers for my VT shard...
If the samabata are up, go to one of the back caves (I think it's the one on the right as you enter the room that forks but not certain). Kill the Sambata Keeper untill the named guy spawns. Killing that named guy will get the hoppers to respawn. Once the hoppers are up, make sure not to kill the Old Aged one, that will trigger the sambata to take over.

[Sharrien]

I buy most of my pelts now, but when i farm them I always go to ML or SD. DSP has more spawns and is easier to get to but you trip over lvl 30 people constantly. It's way over crowded and I feel silly competing with toons half my lvl for a camp. ML can be a pain in the butt with all the aggro, but at least it's not crowded.

[Brewall]

Mons Letalis is still really messed up. Virtually all the mobs in the zone are stuck in the terrain or below the world. I toured the entire zone and of the dozens of mobs that were on my track only 5-6 were walking on the surface.

[naura]

The Mons hoppers have a decent drop rate for the upper end hides, but the zone is bugged. A full three quarters to four fifths of the hoppers on my track are stuck in walls, boulders, etc., in that zone and are not accessible. I never figured out a way to get them out. At least on Tribunal.

i good way i've found out is that make a hot key with /target A

keep clicking around and then once you have them targeted just simply nuke, snare etc.

if you are brave you can try aoe see if ya get more than one.

this is a lesson i learned from doing guk "can't target anything" LDONs.

GL

[Anubsin]

I tried ML but only got one hopper (chanter no track) and i found it by useing F8 to find them) it dropped a flawless though so i was happy

[Rissenn]

I tried out the Hopper cave in DSP with the intent to see what the drop rate was. In the cave there is a total of 30 hoppers (26 if the age old hopper is up since you dont want to kill him)
I killed off the entire cave a few times and noticed that I got about 2 or 3 Flawless pelts per cave run. This means that if you have the entire cave for yourself, which is HIGHLY unusual, you will get between 10-15 pelts per RL hour. Then we also have to count in the time it takes to farm the acrylia.

Now, if we calculate that the average amount of combines before every skill-up is 30 (seems to be the likely number at STAT 280), that would mean 2-3 hours of farming per point. (Acrylia excluded.) We are talking mindless farming with no cash of any shape to get these points.

Anyone else than me see something wrong with this picture? We need either more options of combines, or an increased drop rate.

[Akishka]

Now, if we calculate that the average amount of combines before every skill-up is 30 (seems to be the likely number at STAT 280), that would mean 2-3 hours of farming per point. (Acrylia excluded.) We are talking mindless farming with no cash of any shape to get these points.

Anyone else than me see something wrong with this picture? We need either more options of combines, or an increased drop rate.

I actually like that picture It says with 1 evening of heavy farming, you could potentially get 1 skill up. Seems like a decent rate not to get determined people discouraged but not so easy as to allow a person to GM tailoring on a whim.

Another thought is to increase the amount of acrylia farming (or invest a couple hundred pp in the bazaar) and make an item that would actually sell for a small profit vs is just for skill ups. You would have slightly more time involved but you would then have both a skill up and some pp to show for your efforts.

[Rissenn]

It says with 1 evening of heavy farming, you could potentially get 1 skill up. Seems like a decent rate not to get determined people discouraged but not so easy as to allow a person to GM tailoring on a whim.

So in your opinion, it would be worth to heavily farm the entire cave for 4 rl hours a day for 50 rl days to go from 200 to 250? To each our own I guess.

I just sold what pelts I have so far gathered. I found another route.

[Akishka]

Hey, if you want an easy tradeskill, tailoring is not it. Some of us prefer a bit of a challenge though. You can say with pride and a real sense of accomplishment that you are a 250 tailor, can you really say the same thing about brewing? Not to mention I started an 'easy' tradeskill last night and today I'm already bored with it (but now 193 pottery). Tailoring has held my attention for over a year.

You are right, to each his own. So let us masochistic tradeskillers enjoy our hard stuff and don't try to dumb it down for your own pleasure.

[Rissenn]

Hey, if you want an easy tradeskill, tailoring is not it. Some of us prefer a bit of a challenge though.

- I am not saying that I do nopt prefer a challenge, but do you really, REALLY find the drop rate of one of the few acceptable "low-cost" routes good as it is? There is ONE cave, and often it is camped, or one can get to share about half of it. There is a reason the flawless pelts sell fast at 300pp each on my server.

You can say with pride and a real sense of accomplishment that you are a 250 tailor, can you really say the same thing about brewing?

- If a person comes up to me and seems real happy and says that they have GM'ed Brewing, then yes, I think they have made an accomplishment. For myself, I GM'ed it in a few hours and dont think it is a big deal, no.

Not to mention I started an 'easy' tradeskill last night and today I'm already bored with it (but now 193 pottery). Tailoring has held my attention for over a year.

- Attention of the tailoring in itself, or the toughness to find materials if you are not loaded down with platinum?

You are right, to each his own. So let us masochistic tradeskillers enjoy our hard stuff and don't try to dumb it down for your own pleasure.

I have done quite a few tradeskills. Do you see me complain about any of the others? What i am saying is that the drop rate is ridiculous on the "low cost" routes.
Othmir furs, rockhopper hides, whatevertheyarecalled wyrms, they have one thing in common, they dont drop very much.

And as for "dumbing it down for my own pleasure"....how much have you soloed for farming stuff? I have farmed so much alone that I have gotten so tired that I just dont want to go out and solo anywhere anymore...and I am a necro! So please, spare me such comments.

[Aryse Andenter]

I'm following this off-topic.


I like that tailoring is hard, but I do think it crossed from being hard into being ridiculous. It's okay that some tradeskills are harder than others, but there is a limit to how much of a difference there should be.

Also, I don't mind some farming, but first of all, if I have to farm for hours and hours like this, I want a few more options (in case a camp is taken, or just to tame the monotony of camping for hours and hours over months in the same zones). There are what, like 3 zones to do your farming in right now for the pelts above 200 skill? And I do think the farming crossed from being enough to make the tradeskill hard into a realm of ridiculous difficulty, particularly since it produces a product I can't even give away, much less sell.

While we're at it, please someone explain to me the logic behind the arctic wyvern gear having the low stats it does when they have the same trivial as earthweave?!!!!

With a drop rate like that, my time is better spent farming pp and buying the pelts - only I can't get them on my server, not even at 300pp+, they simply aren't available. Tailoring was the first tradeskill I started, and it will be the last I finish, if I do at all.

[Troodon]

Argh!! i was afraid of that well there gonna be some pissed off people for a while then when i get to the tailoring part of the earing because im gonna probably have to live in there for a while :/

I looked up the ribons but all of them require foraged items and human mages get zero foraging

All of the foraged items to make ribbon dyes also drop off of certain mobs in the same zone, so you can still do these if you can't forage.