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    Hi all!

    My tailoiring skill is 236. I have been making Leatherfoot Haverbags for quite a while, rarely failing at the final combine, but fail average a couple of the subcombines which involves blue diamonds. However, after the new UI was introduced i have experienced a drastic increase in failures, both in the subcombines and the final combine. How bad you ask? Out of 7 final combines i failed 3!! And that after already failing 3 or 4 subcombines with blue diamonds which totally ruins the purpose of making any cash at all. Last time i failed 4 out of 14 final combines. And, i rarely failed on these before at all. Either this is a unintended bug or Verant has nerfed it thinking that since the combines are so much faster now we gonna make them fail more.

    Anyone else has experienced this with the haverbags or any other items for that sake.

    Furface
    Sad Tailor
    Cazic Thule

  • #2
    I havnt noticed any failure increase in the final combine on haversacks. I have made about 35 since the patch (had a lot of fur saved for a month since UI was on test). I failed 2 which would fall in line with my old fail rate at 250 tailoring. On the subcombines I did fail a few more than normal which put me at probably 8% failure instead of the normal 5% or less. Nothing really dramatic but it was a slight increase.

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    • #3
      I think you're having a run of bad luck with the RNG.

      I failed 10 Velium Mastodon Fur cloaks in a row once... only time I've EVER failed on them.

      (sacrifice some halflings. it helps.)
      Centuri, 70 Paladin ~Sword of Fate~ Prexus
      Master Artisan and owner of Matching Luggage set

      Happy Twinks: Research(219), Alchemy(300), Poisoncraft(291) and Tinkering(274).
      I like to be well-rounded.

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      • #4
        I've suceeded on 8/10 cultral plate combines, and 6/6 Tae Ew Chain Tunics.. after the new UI...

        And they are the only hard combines i've done..

        It's just bad luck on your part =(

        edit; another 5/6 on cultral plate
        Last edited by Laeelin; 02-15-2004, 12:21 PM.
        Laeelin
        65 Dark Elven Necromancer of BristleBane

        250 Blacksmith
        185 Tailoring
        248 Brewing

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        • #5
          It's been pointed out that less then 10 combines is really, really not much of a statistical sampling, at all.

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          • #6
            hmmm

            I haven't noticed more failures than normal, I use the interface for smashing blocks of ore down and making studs and boning. I've probably used it for a few hundred combines now, but I still do the skill up combines by hand.

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            • #7
              I seems to been having more success then normal with the new UI. Probably the RNG bringing balance to the force or something XD.

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              • #8
                Haversacks, like a lot of tradeskill stuff, are really streaky for me. I'll go through a dozen combines and make them all, then fail three out of four. It's heartbreaking, but what can you do?
                Bittleaye Arkades
                Halfling Druid of Xev
                Sans Requiem


                Tailoring 252 - Smithing 222 - Fishing 200 - Brewing 200 - Pottery 199 - Baking 197 - Fletching 142

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                • #9
                  I seems to been having more success then normal with the new UI. Probably the RNG bringing balance to the force or something XD.
                  Tell me about it!

                  New TS UI comes out and I had enough vial of viscous mana to do 40 Wu's combines.
                  Tailoring skill to start = 119
                  40 combines later (and having to change patterns)
                  Tailoring skill 145!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






                  PS: man I love these Smilies... hehe Just need more!

                  250 in brewing with a trophy! All other trade skills? /sigh don't ask.
                  Magelo to see my junk.

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                  • #10
                    wow. i made it from 129 to 154 in about 100 combines. was happy with that. you totally blew me away.

                    Maker of Picnics.
                    Cooker of things best left unidentified.
                    "Grimrose points to the sky. Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, no, a plane, no it's Picnic-Man. It's Emiamn, a mild mannered tradeskiller by day but daring handsome crime fighter at night. Spreading peace and joy to norrath with his mighty Picnics!"

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                    • #11
                      the new UI just rock.
                      And for the success / failure / skillup rate, I didn't notice any changes. I made a batch of 70 LoY robes lately, failed none, 5 skillup.

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                      • #12
                        One thing I noticed with the new UI... regarless of the complexity of the items and the number of ingredient the recipe calls for, you can hit the combine button every 3 seconds.

                        Considering how streaky EQ's RNG is, this mean that your combine attempts can be more easily clustered in a 'bad' or 'good' stretch of the RNG than was possible before, when some combine took 10+ seconds to setup.

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                        • #13
                          I agree. It's all about the RNG. Personally the RNG has absolutely loved me on Haversacks since I have only failed 2 out of 250+.

                          Galain ~ Talionis ~ Prexus

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                          • #14
                            I agree. It's all about the RNG. Personally the RNG has absolutely loved me on Haversacks since I have only failed 2 out of 250+.
                            Wow.... I hope you knocked on wood and threw some salt over your shoulder after typing that......

                            hehehe

                            250 in brewing with a trophy! All other trade skills? /sigh don't ask.
                            Magelo to see my junk.

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                            • #15
                              It had gotten to the point where I forgot you could fail these combines.. But last night gave me an ugly reminder 2 fails out of 6 combines.. Oh well, it happens.

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