Question for 158+ tailors

[Dalren Fieryblade]

Acrylia Studded Mask's. Seems like it would be much cheaper as long as you can farm the acrylia and hides. Will take you to 188, 6 points past platinum white ribbons, and it wont cast you 2.1k a stack.

[falkahnhan]

way too high estimated

159 - 167 Golden xxx Ribbons
approx 32pp for the ribbon, approx 50pp (average) for the dye component (if you don't/can't forage).
32+50=82pp
82pp* 40 attempts (again an average, with being random based you need to take stats across a couple characters over 200+ levels, I remember seeing a post in another thread that mentioned the figure of 39.something attempts per skill level, so this looks pretty close) = 3,280pp per skill level
3,280pp x 9 (159 -167) = 29,520pp (approx).

I'm not sure how you're getting your numbers. With 310 int I went from 158 to 167 on about 2-3kpp. I averaged about 1 skill up per 7-9 combines and made gold ribbons. I'm not sure why you're assuming 40attmepts per skill up. I've gotten from 158 to 173 and I'm still in the 8-13 range. The best thing about the ribbons is that 2-3k I still have to make robes.

[Doubled]

tee hee!

If you want to take the ribbon road for skill ups beyond wu's, this is what my experience has been:

Was just sharing my own experience, as I said

it's not definitive just a record of my own experiences.

And yes you can minimise your costs - forage, make your own dyes and save approx (from my own stats) 58k pp.

/shrug wasn't meant to be a definitive expert guide.

As far as 40 combines average per skill up, the RNG is a wicked thing! I have read several posts on these boards and many other boards that show that others have had the same or similar experience. In contrast though I've seen many posts stating that they can achieve a 5 - 10 combines per skill up average. /shrug I don't have the answers. Maybe its a cultural thing? Maybe its a deity thing? Anyone have the answer as to why some of us have an average of 40 and others 10? Would love to learn more about the whole RNG thing and how it applies to tradeskilling. Is there a maximum number that can be generated, is there a minimum? Is it all just luck? If it doesn't come down to luck how do you tweak it so you get that 10 combine per skill up average?


cya

Doubs

[Fundin]

I had an interesting experience with the RNG this weekend. Did about a stack of Gold ribbon combines (various ones, had a mixture of dyes) and got one skillup to 158. Then I had enough fur to make two lemming fur backpack combines. Not only did I succeed on both, but I got skillups on them both!

Now 160 tailoring (and have a geerlok), I have decided no more plat is gonna be spent skilling up, time to do the 6th shawl combine til I succeed (I failed twice at around 155 tailoring).

[grumpinzel]

It's not a controlled study obviously, but I *have* noticed that my skillup ratio for arctic wyvern masks is much better than on ceremonial solstice robes. It's not unreasonable for me to get no skillups for 60 robe combines (4-6 successes at this point), and yet get 2-3 for 40 mask combines. They are the same trivial, why has that been happening for the past 14 skill points? My wisdom is at 355 so I've been hoping (praying!) for the 20-27 combine per skillup ratio but that hasn't happened so far.

[Tingteng]

Hmm that makes me want to use the 300 combines of arctic wyvern masks I have sitting in the bank...........

Currently (190)

Keep doing the cultural (slow) or do the masks?

[Duncan]

sellback?

Don't the completed ribbons (Platinum-White or whatever) have a sellback to vendors? Or do you have to Bazaar them off to an INT casting race for robe making?

Just thought the recovery of PP from sellback should be included in the ribbon equation...

Duncan

[tibbwini]

Yeah, you can sell dyed ribbons back to the vendors, for about 2/3 the value of the undyed ribbon, IIRC.