OMG, now I "Get" it

[ockhamsrazor]

I've been reading this web site for a least 2 years and everyone always talked about how difficult it was to GM tailoring. I started a few weeks ago to just reach the shawl trivial, not even GM it.

Over all this time I was building a HUGE stash of trade skill components, enough I had thought to easily reach shawl trivial if not GM. I had, and stress had, several mules stuffed with flawless rockhoppers, wyvern, velium hound fur, velium studs, heady kiolas, silk, black panther etc etc etc.

Unfortunetly I didn't bother to keep track of how many combines I did, but several days later I'm out of supplies and only at 183.

I just can't believe how many combines I've had to do to only get to 183...183! My int is maxed, I chanted the lucky chants, spun in place, did it all. ONLY 183!

Ok so any suggestions here? I'm out of supplies but have a large bank account, 300K roughly, and can buy a lot of stuff.

Would you try to do the acrylia studded to get to 188, and then pick up with reinforced from there? There seems to be huge gap between 188 and 250 without much I can do without resorting to cultural.

I'm looking for things that don't involve a tremendous number of sub combines. Making the velium studs almost killed me.

Oh, btw this is a 50 char, not a planes char, so planes recipes are out.

Any thoughts?

[Tinile]

You should have done LoY ribbons until 187, then started with hoppers and velious.

[eniamn]

hehe planes recipes are for selling. not for skilling. ungodly rare stuff.

solstice robes but you don't want subcombines.

please tell me you went through the entire wu's progression and didn't just start burning your good stuff?

arctic wyvern is prolly the easiest to farm/fish but you need velium which is top $ now.

good luck farming the hoppers for a bit i guess. i am waiting for the new ui for wu's. heady kiolas annoy me.

and what tinile said. ow.

[Pootle]

i would stick on a geerlok and bang out the shawl combine now!

That is if you only want the Shawl. If you are planning on GMing tailoring eventually, then get it a little highter.

Oh and, Welcome to tailoring!

[drtyaty]

What Pootle Said

Originally posted by Pootle
i would stick on a geerlok and bang out the shawl combine now!

That is if you only want the Shawl. If you are planning on GMing tailoring eventually, then get it a little highter.

Oh and, Welcome to tailoring!

And yes, you should have kept all the components you acquired for later and done loy ribbons to 187.

Knowledge is the key, and obviously you didn't seek it out before beginning your combines; well, I made the same mistake, but it didn't take me that long to acquire it.

[Seedling]

HOOOOPPPPPPEEEEEEERRRRRRZZZZZZZZ *foam* *foam*

MUST.
KILL.
THEM.
ALL.

TRAIN.
TO.
HOPPER.
CAVE.
EXIT.
DO.
NOT.
INTERFERE.

Upon which 1 wizard and 16 hoppers exit the cave...
Controlling 5 quads is just too hard with move-lag interrupts, or I'd do 20

[Nolrog]

I think you need to plan your skill ups a little better. There's no way you should have used up your hopper hides until after everything else was trivial. With a little up front preparation, you can minimize the time and cost that your skilling up will take. Also check the how to skill up guides under the learn a skill link on the main page here.

People here are very helpful. Feel free to ask for help when you need it. (and don't forget the search function, because chances are, someone else asked that question before.)

[ockhamsrazor]

Rest assured, I did Wu's till trivial, then ribbon to high 170's, then I ran out of stuff for ribbons so I started into the "Good" stuff.

I had 70-80 stacks of good stuff though, 245+ trivial stuff. I just never imagined I would only get around 10 skillups with all those final combines.

grrrrrrr, like I said I get it now :-)

[Nolrog]

I'm glad to hear that you planned well. I didn't realize that you had trivialed on everything else before moving on to "the good stuff". I guess we'll see you back at the hopper cave soon.

Good luck

[Ursawraith]

Think of the RNG as the "house" in a casino.

Rememer the house always wins

[JMorgana]

Personally, if we're talking about the ungodly 6th shawl tailoring combine (200+ trivial one), I would go for it...I've done that one twice on the first shot...once at 158 tailoring on my wizard and once at 140 tailoring on my druid...REALLY not worth sinking the money into trying to raise it higher unless you're really planning on GM'ing it at some point anyways.

[Lladnarr]

LoY ribbons for skill ups... hmmm, I know, seems simple. I am not a forager, so I have to buy the foraged items, or get friends to forage for me (sometimes this works) Platinum ribbons cost 105pp each. so for a stack of combines, that is 2k+ (for just the ribbons). skill ups from 1 stack of combines normally results in 2, maybe 3 if your lucky. I guess I just don't get how people make that much pp. I dont (and wont) run a casino. ( I put any I hear advertising them on ignore) I get pp from selling stuff I get from loots in Bazaar or splits from groups. I dont put rediculous prices on my items either (1million pp for a white dragon helm) (85k for a spell) To me all this just seems crazy. The economy is insane, Imo. I used to make Blessed fishing rods to make pp. As I stated earlier, I do not forage, so... the price of planar oak has gone from 200pp to 1-2k, and dragon eggs are rarely found in the bazaar anymore.

I guess I am ranting a bit, I appologize for this. I just get frustrated.

I am currently doing the 7th shawl, my tailoring is 155, with a geerlock that puts me at the trivial for the 7th combine. I really hesitate to try, because I have already failed with the enchanted velium powder once. (3k for a runed sea shell, GAH!) So, I face skilling up tailoring to 176 so that I can be a little more secure in finishing the 7th and 8th shawl. So.... lots of farming for me, for superb rockhopper hides to do skill ups with acrylia studded, just cant afford the LoY ribbon route.

[munwin]

Now try to imagine what it was like when all we had was Velious to get 250....


Munwin

[Tudamorf]

Originally posted by Lladnarr
So, I face skilling up tailoring to 176 so that I can be a little more secure in finishing the 7th and 8th shawl.

I don't understand; if you've finished the sixth already, why bother raising your tailoring further? You're already at the trivial (with geerlok) for the 7th and the only other tailoring combine is soft fur padding, for which you will be at near trivial and will get near minimum fail rates. Worst case, just make another padding; it's far easier than cheaper than raising your tailoring.

[AbitooXev]

I killed the level 4 greens in Steamfront for steamfront water to do most of my LoY ribbons. Also got some lichenclover (slaughter drolvargs in FV) and bazaar farmed. I believe I was only getting about 20 per hour ( pay some noobs!

I did solstice robes to about 210, where I was so sick of subcombines, and my success rate was really killing my funds (cost me roughly 120pp per fail and another 500pp per success), that I moved on to Artic Wyvern. I had been bazaar farming hides at 40pp each or less for a month or more, quickly burned through them. Started buying velium and fishing for oil, decided learned it was faster to do it the other way around when the bazaar permited.

As far as how people make the cash to support their tailoring habit, I cannot speak for anyone else, but since I had smithing and brewing GM'd (ok, smithing is 221+15%) when they added ornate drops to Sol Ro I probably farmed 100-200k in ornate in with my exp group in a week, averaging almost 1 drop per person per 2-3hr session. Also, another 20-50k from sheets and rings.... Market isnt as good on those anymore.