Another Craptastic run in tailoring...

[Mamine]

80+ attempts for 1 skillup

God this is so depressing! I don't know if its better or worse reading that everyone else is having the same problems

PS: WIS 255, INT 152, Tailoring 191, Geerlok

[Psychosis]

Ya know I keep reading about maxing INT or WIS to get better and what not on Trade Skills.

But ya know somthing. Try getting a Beastlord to 255 anything is damm near impossible unless you have a guild that can help you get the items from places like WW ToV HoT Sleppers ect... My guild cant do those places at all. For them to try would be folly. So what is one to do when you dont have much pp 2k is as high as I ever have gotten there. Or a guild that can help you get the items for high stats?

[Wyrdlan]

Well if you can't come up with plat, tailoring just isn't for you.


That said, here is a profile I made as an example that assumes you didn't put ANY points into wisdom, (Vah Shir Base wisdom: 80 ). All the items are either in the 2k or less range, is what you are already wearing, or could be easily gotten by you.

Test Beastlord

Remember to add 10 WIS for Qeynos Tea and Misty Thicket Picnics and 25 for Kodiaks, bringing you to 240 from base 80 with basic non-uber gear. It may not be 255 but it beats the heck out of the 148 you are working with currently.

[Marieanna]

More INT

I wouldn't recommend tailoring without max INT. Just buy a kei! More INT = more success. I know that opinion varies on DEX, but to me I just seem to have more successes when I'm buffed up.

[Valorale]

Ya know I keep reading about maxing INT or WIS to get better and what not on Trade Skills.

But ya know somthing. Try getting a Beastlord to 255 anything is damm near impossible unless you have a guild that can help you get the items from places like WW ToV HoT Sleppers ect... My guild cant do those places at all. For them to try would be folly. So what is one to do when you dont have much pp 2k is as high as I ever have gotten there. Or a guild that can help you get the items for high stats?

You dont do tailoring thats what you do. Not until you have the money to afford the heavy losses and the gear needed to minimize those losses.
Any way you cut it, it is one of, if not the most expensive (Except maybe smithing) both in plat and time consumption out there.

[Moraganth]

I really, firmly, believe that the PotC recipies are set to have a lower chance for skillups. My worst runs contain batches of robes, and i see virutally no one saying they got a lot of skillups off them, assuming they did more than a few and got lucky. We saw with the velium hound padding how different things can skillup at different rates.

[Mamine]

INT, WIS and/or DEX ?

Marieanna says:

I wouldn't recommend tailoring without max INT. Just buy a kei! More INT = more success. I know that opinion varies on DEX, but to me I just seem to have more successes when I'm buffed up

Being a druid, WIS is my main stat ... I also try to get INT as high as poss. There seems to be an ongoing debate about whether INT actually helps with Tradeskills if WIS is the main ... can anyone confirm whether this is true or not :?: Also does Dexterity help or not when Tailoring :?:

Mamine

[Liwsa]

It has been stated by verent(sony now) that which ever is higher Int/Wis is what will be used to determine your skill-ups.

Liwsa 201 apprentice tailor
Terris-Thule

[Jannelle Silverthorne]

It has been stated by verent(sony now) that which ever is higher Int/Wis is what will be used to determine your skill-ups.

True. But there have been many times that VI has stated something and we've found out that it doesn't work the way they've stated. It's a complex game and not everyone at VI can know everything about every piece of it. Us as gamers focus on our little piece of the game and quite often know more about it than the developers do as they don't have the luxury of focusing to the extent we do.

I really, firmly, believe that the PotC recipies are set to have a lower chance for skillups. My worst runs contain batches of robes, and i see virutally no one saying they got a lot of skillups off them, assuming they did more than a few and got lucky.

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=94&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start= 0

If you're not seeing people getting skill ups off PoTC combines, it's because you're not looking. Per the above thread you can see that Kirasha was running 22.676 combines per skill up from 155 to 189 on solstice robes. 771 combines for 34 skill ups.

Tailors have used Solstice robes.
Smiths have used Sickles.
Potters have used Steins and idols.
Bakers have used MTP's.

Yes, people hit hell levels with PoTC items. They also hit hell levels with Luclin or Velious recipes or even old world stuff like Fine Plate.

[Moraganth]

If you're not seeing people getting skill ups off PoTC combines, it's because you're not looking. Per the above thread you can see that Kirasha was running 22.676 combines per skill up from 155 to 189 on solstice robes. 771 combines for 34 skill ups.

Actually, i have been looking.... there have been way more posts on using potc items for skillups, and various people saying how horrible their runs were using them, for skillups. I have also noticed when i do large batches of potc robes, those points tend to require many more combines.

The point of it is.. different combines have different chances for skillups. Hound fur showed that. My opinion, from what i have personally observerd, and have seen written here is, the potc items for all of the tradeskills, are set for a lower chance to skillup. Now, it is just my opinion... but people can look at the one person doing ok with them, or the dozen that mysteriously have 300-400+ hell levels coinciding with doing potc items.

Just my opinion, but don't think that i don't pay attention... as we used to say.. stay alert, stay alive.

[Jannelle Silverthorne]

One other thing to keep in mind Moraganth. People are a lot more likely to complain about something when it's bad. I.E. They'll come complain about skill up rates with anything but are less likely to talk about how successful they were. So for every one person having a hard time with a particular item, there's most likely 3-4 people doing just fine with it.

[rjfras]

Dexterity added?

Actually in the TRADESKILL PANEL TRANSCRIPT, MAY 6, 2002 from the Seattle Fanfaire it was stated:

QUOTE

What other skills have secondary skills like Smithing?

Fletching runs off Dexterity, Jewelry runs off Dexterity, Tailoring will run off Dexterity soon. Basically that means whichever is highest of Intelligence, Wisdom or Dexterity will be the stat checked for chances to raise skill.

Dan Enright, Yakatizma, game designer for EverQuest

UNQUOTE

Anyone know if this ever came to be?

[Lilosh]

Re: Dexterity added?

Actually in the TRADESKILL PANEL TRANSCRIPT, MAY 6, 2002 from the Seattle Fanfaire it was stated:

Anyone know if this ever came to be?

Nothing was mentioned in any patch message, and as far as the Tradeskill community has seen, only WIS and INT affect skillups.



-Lilosh

[Veldin Darkfire]

Ok another 10 wyvern masks = 0 skill ups 0 success
5 acrylia reinforced masks = 1 skill up 1 success
70 solstic robe attempts = 1 skill ups 2 successes

int: 255
dex: 170
geerlock in hand

Current Skill Level: (192)

Veldin

[Quintox]

Skillup

Was 191 with 255+ Int

5 stacks (100) of Flawless Hides = 0 Skillups
2 stacks (40) of Wyvern Hides = 1 Skillup

That means I went through 15K in supplies to finally make 1 skillup, depressed, but glad I got the one point finally.