can you STILL skill up on arctic wyvern mask?

[elyn]

I just did a run of 60 arctic wyvern hide masks on Cazic-Thule. Not a single skill up. Failed all of them except for one, which is highly unusual. I'm wondering if anyone else can at least tell me if on their server they can still get a single skill up on these.

The average is 20 combines for one skill up on these.

I started at 190 skill (and still am) with 314 wis/177dex when I did the combines.

Some of you may be wondering why I am even asking this...
The answer is probably ) superstition and the fact that I don't want to waste more expensive/hard to come by components if there is a bug. These tend to happen right after patches, and there was one a week or so ago and this is the first time I'm doing combine.

Yeah that was me way back then when I cried the sky was falling with the silk solstice robe trivial being less than 255 because back then when I was 170's skill it gave me something like 'you can longer advance your skills'. I swear!

I'm tellin' you I'm not craazy (yet). Help!

[Pootle]

Ok, i am gonna go easy on you, but people post this all the time....

190-200 = HELL LEVELS.

So you did 60 combines.... not unusuall. I went 143 combines to go from 193 to 194.

Keep going!

[Tinile]

In addition to what Pootle said, you are very low, so I would expect mostly failures at your level.

[T3Nameless]

I almost had the same experience. I was at 190, and did 3 stacks of Arctic Wyvern Mask... only got 1 point out of them. What a bummer.

But guess what? I then did 18 combines of a LoY robe (Robe of Wing for DE), and got 3 points, 8 robes! The trivial for that robe is between 229 and 234.

I don't know if you can draw any conclusion out of that, but for me I am going to /auc for LoY components every chance I get.

[Enchanter]

I'm on Cazic as well, and I have atrociously bad luck skilling up on velious tailoring. I've done runs of 60 leathers and got 0 skill, 40 othmir hats, 0 skill. Quite frankly, it's depressing. There are so few options now (skill 239) since I'm not "ubah", I can't get a lot of the really hard to find high end components.

I'll keep plugging away at velious though. I've got enough wyvern hides and tigerraptor hides for another run of 50 as soon as I can get some cod oil. If I get any successes, I'll post them.

[Galain]

Pfft. I went over 300 combines without a skill up at least 3 times in the 190-200 range.

[Enchanter]

Originally posted by Galain
Pfft. I went over 300 combines without a skill up at least 3 times in the 190-200 range.

That's all well and good, but for some people it takes weeks just to assemble 40 velious attempts.

"Hey bro, wanna LDoN?"
"Nah, fishing for cod to make cod oil."

*next day*

"Done fishing?"
"Finally, praise be."
"Up for PoN?"
"Can't. I'm hunting wyverns for pelts. : P"
"K, give a /tell when you're free."

*etc, etc*

I'm not in the 190-200 range, but I've never had good fortune with velious leathers. Am I saying they are broken? No. Is it frustrating for we who do spend the lion's share of online time trying to gather what we need? Of course.

So collecting even anecodetal evidence of others success seems worthwhile, not something to be dismissed with a "Pfft." Please note, there is no rancor, or harsh feeling towards you, Galain, just trying to offer perspective from the other side.

[Tweedledea]

Velious tailoring has always been high fail.... at 190 I'd grit my teeth and expect low success rates... and as for skill ups... see above :/

[Knomercy]

On the note of success rates, I think tailoring is bugged. Did a round of 20 haze panther combines and failed every single one with 252 max skill.

[Kurwin]

I did 80 combines with a skill of 229 and 330 wis and got one skill up. I thought somthing was wrong too.

[Emron]

Bugged?

I'm wondering also if something isn't bugged. I was lead to expect that the skill-up rates were fairly good with ribbons. For 60 ribbons I had 6 skill-ups, but my success rate was terrific. Out of 60 I succeeded 46 times. My skills was 167 to begin with, and I was making platinum ribbons with steam dye, which trivials at 182.

Is what I'm seeing about right?
Thanks,
Emron

[mewkus]

one skill up in ten attempts while in the 170s sounds about right (at least matches my experience). Regarding the 190s, I just did 60 solstice robe attempts and yielded 7 skill ups (187-194) and 3 sucesses. I am absolutely convinced that different items have different skill up rates. A friend of mine has done about 400 dwarven BD armor combines without a single skill up, but gets a skill up on about every 10th sickle attempt. I suspect that verant wants people doing combines from more recent expansions since those are the ones they're selling right now ($).

[Antoin]

"Hey bro, wanna LDoN?" "Nah, fishing for cod to make cod oil." *next day* "Done fishing?" "Finally, praise be." "Up for PoN?" "Can't. I'm hunting wyverns for pelts. : P" "K, give a /tell when you're free."

Of course you can kill wyverns and fish while you med, but yes, normally it does take weeks, because even after you get a load of that, you have to go farm velium somewhere.

Or you can get hordes of rockhopper hides but no acrylia.

[Thicket Tundrabog]

Hmmmm...

I believe that there are some cases where people have poor skillups over the long haul and a bug is certainly a possibility. If you average over 100 combines per skillup over 20 skill levels, you will have a case for a potential bug. However, a hundred, or a few hundred with zero skillups is well within the norm for the RNG.

On the weekend I went five for five on arctic wyvern combines. The previous weekend I went one success for eight combines on arctic wyvern. I typically average a 50% success rate at 250 skill. Although my recent sampling is small, there doesn't seem to be anything unusual.

Thicket

[Lanalia]

I did 7 Wyvern Hide Mask combines yesterday at skill level 189 with a geerlok, and succeeded on one mask and got a skillup.

Yes, I'm thanking the RNG... I didn't expect to get a skillup OR succeed.