SoV tailoring

[YurienStonebow]

ok i've seen various answer but havne't really heard a defintive answer. what are the drop rates peopel ahe found on eahc type of hide/fur needed? i'm not worried aobut yew leaves or drage oil. jsut the main part

[PetrosDaroc]

In CS, the drop rate isn't too horrible, but it's not great either. Off the 'verns, you'll probably get a hide every 4-5 kills; on the drakes, probably a hide every 7-9 kills. The othmir fur drop rate used to be better, but it seems to have dropped a bit. I used to get a fur every 2-3 kills, but am now getting a fur every 6-7 kills. I haven't farmed WW or WL yet, so I can't comment on those drop rates.

Hides aren't really the pain when it comes to SoV tailoring, it's the yew leaves and the velium which get to be tiresome.

[Vxart]

Re: Velious tailoring

I don't have experience with all of the velious drops, but I do with certain ones. In WL, the tigeraptors and panthers drop hides about 1 in 5 or so. On rare occassions, they will drop 2 hides. The haze panthers have about the same drop rate in hides, but they are a rare spawn, taking the place of a regular panther once every 15 or 20 times (and they're invisible).
I never hunted for arctic wyvern, as I buy them as merchant overstock (13pp and change or thereabouts) or in the bazaar at 10-20pp each.
I never hunted the ice burrowers, as I would need a group to go to WW for this. Instead I buy the silks, which are fairly cheap now at 100-200pp each.
Velium hounds I have hunted, but only enough to collect 9 furs for the 8th shawl. I had to kill 35-45 hounds for this, which leads me to believe these are similar drop rates to the WL mobs, although they are much tougher, and tougher to get to.
Never killed an othmir, and the holgresh furs were subject to Trivial Loot Code (FV server) as magic items. Since the holgresh were green by the time I made it to WL, the many that have aggroed me and hence been killed have never dropped a fur.
Crystalline silks were a long time ago, and I seem to recall a huge waste of time. Still, drop rates were decent, comparable to regular spider silk off of regular spiders (this silk is also a magic item and subject to TLC on FV, hence I was only able to get silk off the higher-level spiders by the time I finally got around to hunting CC).
However, as Petros mentioned, the real bottleneck in velious tailoring is the velium, and the yew leaves if you choose to go the panther/haze panther route. Drake eggs and Cobalt Cod are relatively easy. Yew leaf forages are about 1 per hour if you're lucky...I have gone a whole night killing geonids and not received a single yew leaf. I have spent over 100 hours in WL and have never seen one on the ground, although I never looked terribly hard either. When they say 'rare forage', they mean it!

[YurienStonebow]

i am not goign to bother with yew leaves unless guildies give me some. i have a druid alt that can hunt in CC to get velium so that isn't big deal. i was jsut curious about hides. oh and i'm 55 bst if tht matters and i usually solo everyhere due to my hours of play

[Chenier]

If you've got a druid to forage drake eggs, then go wyvern, tigeraptor, otter...leave the panthers alone (unless you get lucky finding or been given yew leaves) because yew leaves suck.

[PetrosDaroc]

The nice thing about the otter hides is that you don't need drake eggs or yew leaves for them, you just need a lot of the fur and an enchanter to make you vials of mana.

[YurienStonebow]

i wanna try and stay away from the mana vials if possible. i'm tying to do cheap SoV tailor




<waits for roaring laughter>

[bearcaller]

Originally posted by YurienStonebow
i wanna try and stay away from the mana vials if possible. i'm tying to do cheap SoV tailor




<waits for roaring laughter>

hahahahahaha......You naughty person, you made me spew coke all across my moniter at work. Othmir are in fact the cheapest recipe that trivials at greater than 250. You will spend more on a single coldain velium temper than you will on a combine for an othmir fur cap. Even if you pay 30pp per vial of clear mana in bazaar, they are still the cheapest of velious tailoring.

[Wandazula]

the problem I have with sov tailoring though is I think I have yet to get a skill up from any of the combines (have made a bunch of each) and the failure rate is high (except for othmir fur caps) and no one wants to buy those even at 25 pp ... and even if they did... you'd still not be able to sell them all



anyway... 212 tailoring and climbing, clawing for skill ups

[brendil]

~rustles his tailoring cloak, removing ages of dust~

Back in the old days Velious was the ONLY way to skill up (yeah, I know, that puts it around 2 years +/- ago) and SoL came out with pitiful drop rates for acrylia and hides. I have to agree with Chenier that unless you can avoid it, don't bother with pantherskin combines, unless you know someone who has a knack for gathering the yew leaves (there are those that can get a stack in an hour or two). The tempers are costly, however, you can at least make them now (as opposed to purchase only back in the day) for approximately half the cost (of course, the increased cost of getting repetitive stress syndrome). My estimate (and it's pretty close) of cost from 156 to 250 (again, back then, buying all the tempers and vendor farming all over the place when I had the spare plat), cost me around 900kpp. Othmir are a very viable option, just don't expect to make money off them. When I was skilling, you couldn't even sell them back to the vendors so I ended up destroying a lot (we're talking a few hundred at least, because of their lower trivial).

You say you want to do it the cheapest way possible, but when it comes to tailoring there is no such thing unfortunately, especially with SoV tailoring.

[Trezark]

Originally posted by brendil
[BOthmir are a very viable option, just don't expect to make money off them.[/B]

It may also be worth noting that if you plan to save money by brewing your own Coldain Velium Tempers, ruining your Othmir faction makes this slightly more of a hassle, as Blumblum Swigwater is the only merchant in the world (and beyond, for that matter) that sells the Brown Algae needed to make Coldain Heaters. You can always get a friend or a mule to buy them so it's not that big of a deal, just one more step to add to the infernal process of making the things. Every time I run out I tell myself I'm just going to go to Thurg and pay the 26 plat, but then that little voice in my head reminds me that brewing them myself saves 600 plat per stack of studs and I end up making a whole bag full.