Incorrect Trivial listing for Shadow scream armor

[Nomerc d Kruoris]

Hello,

I am posting this because I spent a total of 27 hours doing the progressive quest and farming 2 stacks of Wailing Substance, 2 stacks of Shrieking Substance and 6 stacks of Swirling Shadows to make Shadow scream armor.

Your web site lists the minimum trivial as >204 and a max of >250. This information is compleatly incorrect. I currently have a skill of 185. Each and every peice with the exception of the cloak was trivial to me. By the time I got down to testing each peice and discovered that the cloak was not trivial I had already wasted just over a stack of the materials I had collected.

I am a bit frustrated to have made this discovery. I am sure many people use this web site as a guide to decide what they want to make in order to increase their skills.

Please update the trivial listings on the Shadow scream steel armor. I am sure other individuals would not appreciate wasting as much time as I did just to find out they are unable to increase their skill as I did.

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.

Nomerc d Kruoris
Innoruuk server - <Notabilis Kruoris>
60 Cleric - Dark Elf

[Niami DenMother]

Erm, your information is totally counter to information reported in by literally hundreds of smiths across multiple servers. Until and unless we can get a second confirmation on this, the numbers that have tkane literally MONTHS to have verified as now listed on the site will stay.

Please DO understand that trivials can and do change, and <i>as they are reported in and verified here (and there's even a sticky for such trivial updates handily posted at the top of this forum)</i> every effort is made to get the site updated. As of this point, you are the first person to report such a huge, sweeping change to this armor set that we've been working on trivial narrowing since the big smithing patch changed trivials. While I feel bad for your perceived sense of loss, and your frustration, I am concerned and hesitant to change these numbers on the basis of one report, when there was not any patch (as of this posting) this week that could be attributed to such a change.

It's possible that there was a "stealth" change, but these numbers are so very off from what's been reported up to this point as to make me wary. I've been burnt in the past on several instances by folks jumping up and down screaming bloody murder because my trivials are "wrong", only to change the numbers based on their screaming, and ending up with 30 other folks screaming at me that the original number is actually correct, and that they personally verified it in-game just to triple check for me.

[Nomerc d Kruoris]

Aye I fully understand.... thank you for your quick response to this subject...

I do want to make an addendum.. I did not try to make the boots and I have seen some posts regarding them being trivial at 248. I still have 4 humming orbs and will attempt at least one push on the boots.

I am not angry at the information not being 100% correct for I am well aware of VIs enjoyment of doing whatever they can to ensure you stay on for days at a time :P my post was to assist you in keeping as current as you possibly can.

Nomerc d Kruoris

P.S. let me know what you need as verification... I would be happy to provide.

[Gmek_FV]

Can tell ya rite now, since meez wife is skillun up on shadowscreem, as of da last time she did a run, which wuz dis past Saturday, da trivials were still above her skill level of 214. But as da denmuther has sed, der mite hab been a stelth-nerf in da last patch. Gunna hab her do anudder set of gloves tanite and we'll post da info about it as soon as she duz it.


Gmek
&lt;Dark Affliction>
Puntin' gnomes fer 54 seasons on Firiona Vie

[Llwyd]

Not trivial

None of the pieces I made last night (boots and bracers) were trivial at my
current 193 skill. And, I've made a complete set in the last two weeks.
Haven't got a skillup in 50 odd combines tho.

[Gmek_FV]

Well meez just had her make a shadowscreem gloves and it wuznt trivial at level 214. She sed maybie yer seein da messages dat are showin up when ya make dem hummin' orbs....

Gmek
&lt;Dark Affliction>
Firiona Vie

[Kethaniel]

Well I can tell you that as of today (December 10 i think) bracers trivialed for me at 228. I then went on to boots and they were not trivial.

Kethaniel Dreamspinner

[Kradlum]

I was making bracers and collars on Tuesday. Neither trivial at 193.

[Nomerc d Kruoris]

went back and did the boots... they are not trivial..

I will redo and chat log the push and will post that info. this way no way to make a mistake... will take me few days.

Nomerc d Kruoris

[Kingbobb]

I made 6 pieces of shadowscream last week, and while I can't confirm whether they were trivial, I'm in the middle of getting to 250, so I think I would have noticed the "cannot increase...skill" message. I'll try to confirm this later today.

[Arhallia]

I made legs and boots last week. Neither was trivial at 227 skill.

[Bemidian]

I made a mask and collars skilling up from 188 to 190. Not trivial although hardly any failures.

[Bemidian]

More collars tonight from 190 to 192. Still not trivial.

[Kradlum]

Boots and Belt not trivial at 193 last night

[BuilderOfCastles]

Full set

I made a full set for my little rouge.

Nothing was trivial and I gained 2 skill ups.
Now 194 smithing.

Marriel on Fennin Ro
Shaman of the Frozen North, 51 Winters
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