Patch nessed up shadowscream trivials

[Reflan]

I put some of the following in another post, but wanted to put it on its own thread just to warn people; losing vah shir anvil/humming hammer, and substances/shadows is no picnic.

I am at 191 smithing and a couple days ago found shadowscream gorget(triv 228) were giving me messages that I could no longer increase my skill combining them. The boots still worked. This was in POK, in various forges. Today I tried the boots, and they didn't work. The bracers did work. Went through a number of substances and shadows before I really noticed. Did NOT try gorget.

Have crashed numerous times opening forges and initiating trades with people. Crashed while combining shadowscream in a POK forge and luckily still both hammer and anvil! Scared the crap outta me. Am also crashing at seeming random times now, almost always within a few minutes after an incorrect DNC experience, there's a guaranteed crash.

Lost skinning knife spontaneously it seems to me during a skinning session while making paddings. Lost various small combine items.

[Kradlum]

This is reported after every patch. What has normally happened is the person is reading the trivial message from making the humming orb, not the shadowscream combine. I haven't done any combines since the patch, so I can't be sure, but I'd take it with a pinch of salt, simply because it is posted every time.

[kiztent]

Yes, I remember the last major patch when this exact same thing was posted. I remember the panic, and I remember taking an evening to test trivials. They hadn't changed. Before you post anything like this, support it with log files.

[Reflan]

I'm reporting what I experienced. Yes, I know to look for messages properly to distinguish humming orb combines from shadowscream combines. And I never meant to imply that this would be something that would happen to everyone and always; it didn't even happen to me the same way on different days. One day I was able to get increases off the boots; one day I wasn't. And before the patch, I didn't have this problem at all.

This wasn't meant to be a definitive statement on the future of shadowscream; just anecdotal experience, with all the value and lack of value that implies. Just a warning to carefully watch your combines. I can go through a lot of combines before I even bother looking at messages because I don't want to be too hyper about whether or not I get a skill-up every combine. For now I'm watching carefully, and suggest doing might be wise.

[Raiyaeq]

What do you mean by it didn't work? As DNC or can't raise skill anymore? If it's the first, then you might done something wrong. /shrug

I did 14 combines of shadowscream gorget after most recent patch got 1 point off it

[Kronepsis]

He means he's combining them and getting trivial messages.

There's also the off chance that it might be a server specific goof...

[Niami DenMother]

Actually, you're reporting what, at least on the surface, are two different problems.

The DNCs, the crashing and lost items are a problem with random tradeskill combines of ANY sort. See the following thread in the General Tradeskills Forum for details: http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6360 The Dev team is trying to track down the cause of this problem now.


The change in shadowscream trivials *is* something that folks keep randomly reporting after patches, but seem to be user error, flukes, or *maybe* something tied to the above creative DNC problem. I know I was concerned enough about these reports to tag Frizznik about the reputed trivial change and he has verified that the trivials have NOT changed for shadowscream armor.

[Reflan]

I did some combines after I noticed the problem to be sure it wasn't just some error somehow on my part, both days. This problem may well be confined to me, and just on those particular days even, as it didn't even work the same way both days -- some days I got skill-ups on gorgets, some I didn't, and some I didn't get skill-ups on boots, some I did. DNC, crashes, etc, were different matters.

Just a heads-up to WATCH your combines. Hopefully it was just a small run of weirdness on my particular server, or just on me, for a short time.

[Raiyaeq]

I did 27 combines last night on gorgets. 3 points increase.

[Reflan]

Take note.

I am 246 pottery. I did about 50 combines on star ruby encrusted steins tonight. Was making them to sell, not for skill-ups. Trivial on them is over 250; I usually get a 50/50 success rate on making the item with geerlok.

AGAIN got the message: YOU CAN NO LONGER INCREASE YOUR SKILL by making this item or whatever in both the making and the firing stages. This was in the bazaar.

After failing about 10 in a row, I figured I was getting neither steins NOR skill-ups, so the whole enterprise was turning into a waste. And I was throwing away future potential skill-ups once they fix this in a patch.

As I note, this does not mean it will happen to YOU.

But ... it happened to me on three different items so far -- shadowscream boots, gorget, and star ruby encrusted steins.

Keep your eyes open if you are looking for skill-ups. I'm not combining any more shadowscream for a while.