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    First time poster, but I lurk here quite often for advice and ideas. I am a human smith on Ayonae Ro, with a skill of 210. I want to know at what skill level have others tried doing the combines for the heraldic plate armor and what kind of success I can expect. I believe I read here somewhere that some recommend trying the cultural combines after they hit 212. Is this a viable number to start realizing skill-ups and will I see any successes at all? Thanks!

    Calidain
    Calidain Stormheart
    Paladin of Allied Giants
    GrandMaster Human Smith
    Ayonae Ro

  • #2
    Well

    I can't answer that definitively, however, I've seen posted many many times, that many people get 25-35% success at an effective level of 222 (212 plus gearlok)

    What it boils down to is, how comfortable are you with a 25% success rate, or lower? Do you have the plat to suck up that kinda money in failures?

    I myself am at 201, and hope to make a few tries at cultural dwarven when I get to 212 myself. Guess we'll see what happens eh?
    Balkin Ironfist (Ominous Deeds)
    56th Myrmidon of Brell Serilis
    Xegony

    "Every day of my life forces me to lower my estimate of the average IQ of the Human Race."

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    • #3
      212!!!

      If I can see skill-ups and also have the possibility to make some nice Luminant Heraldic for my Paladin, the failures won't hurt too much. I have farmed a lot of stuff needed already and the platinum is not truly a major concern right now. Thanks for the response.
      Calidain Stormheart
      Paladin of Allied Giants
      GrandMaster Human Smith
      Ayonae Ro

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      • #4
        As a High elf after Fine Plate I did the chain combines till about 200-205 then started plate... I have seen better than a 25% success rate. I am now at 212 and working on getting more items to do more combines.
        Sir Cavel Cade
        65 Paladin
        230 High Elven Smith
        Draconis Valorum
        Tunare

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        • #5
          I didn't touch a blue diamond or a royal temper until I hit 242. At 242, I had about 50-60% success rate. I mostly used Freeport cultural/sea tempers to get from 242 to 248 and sickles to hit 250.

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          • #6
            With the price of BDs dropping everyday, if you have a good supply of Essence of Sunlight, i'd say you can start now if you want. I started at about the same skill as you have now. A few things I have personally noticed, 1.) Unimbued seems to be easier than imbued. 2.) Bracers trivial higher than the other 1 ring items. 3.) Depending on your server, even with a high failure rate, you should be able to pull in some decent cash. Good Luck.

            (oh, and Essence of Sunlight sucks :evil: )

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            • #7
              Radodverge was getting goodf enough success to break even or even make a small profit at 226 or so with Geerlock.

              If you want to make for friends/your own use, and you have ready access to BDs/tempers, you may want to riska go now. For selling, wait a bit.
              Garshok
              95th Dreadlord, Povar-Quellious, 300 Ogre Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
              (glad the climb to 300 is finally over)

              Zopharr
              95th Priest of Brell, Povar-Quellious, 300 Dwarven Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
              (holds his 15% smithing trophy in his off hand and pretends to dual-wield - and hopes the Holy Dirt of Brell he's carried for twelve years will have a use in the new expansion)

              Rishathra
              95th Shaman of Inny, Povar-Quellious, 300 Troll Grand Master Smith
              (got so tired of looking for a troll smith for armor that I made one)

              Marzanna
              95th Necromancer, Povar-Quellious, 300 Tinker - Tailor
              (still working on Solder, Spy)

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              • #8
                My skill is currently 230 with geerlock and i tryd a little mistletoe. After 5 combines i suceeded one.

                Both are >250 so i guess wait more.

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                • #9
                  My skill is currently 230 with geerlock and i tryd a little mistletoe. After 5 combines i suceeded one.
                  Between 202 and 210, with a geerlok, I succeeded on 6 of 16 mistletoe cutter attempts, which I suspect is above average success. Once I discovered the components for the cutters didn't stack and were rather expensive I switched to doing human cultural.

                  I can't answer that definitively, however, I've seen posted many many times, that many people get 25-35% success at an effective level of 222 (212 plus gearlok)
                  Interesting, if I have a shot at doing Heraldic with a one in four or better chance of success I may start doing some, as there is at least a possibility of selling it in the Bazaar for a decent price (as opposed to imbued field plate, which rarely sells and only at cost if it does). Plus I know several people who would be happy to provide components in return for a chance at getting the Heraldic as long as there is some reasonable chance of success.

                  Time to pull out those stacks of sunlight and velium rings I have been hoarding. Blue diamonds are another story, unfortunately.
                  Araon Trueheart
                  Cleric of 65 Heals and Buffs
                  (Smithing 246, Fishing 200, etc.)
                  Torv

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                  • #10
                    /wave

                    May reconize the name, also a human smith from Ayonae.

                    As far as I'm aware Liper is also currently doing combines and has about a 1/6 success rate on most of the pieces. I honestly waited until about 225 + geerlok before I started on mine. Really up to you and what success rate you're going for.
                    http://members.cox.net/jessamynsarmor/heraldic.html



                    http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=163245Magelo

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