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    Ok, keep in mind that this post is not just about the froggy information. I seem to have people missing out on other parts of posting and sticking to the froggy info, I guess since LoY is soon to be released.

    Few questioned I have compiled before I begin smithing, instead of asking one at a time and flooding the forums:

    1. I have a 55 Eru CT Necro, 33 Eru CT Wiz, and a 35 Hlf Elf Tun Bard. I will begin smithing soon, and I have already acquired a ton of ingrediants for the skill. My bard has the speed, tracking, etc... to assist in farming. However, being Hlf Elf he has no cultural armor to make later. I would really like to make a few kpp on this later to catch some of the smithing cost back. Should I begin another character leaving him at lvl 1, binding in PoK and deliver all ingrediants to him to combine? Is it worth it?

    2. If I were to begin a new race, say human ( I hear the market for this armor is great). What deity would be a wise choice since this char will only be for smithing? I understood that frogkoks will only be able to follow MMarr (I have no confirmed).

    3. Moment of silence, for I have lost my train of thought...

    4. What lvl does melting FS Wpns into HQ Ore become trivial? ( Due to security at work I am not allowed to view the website. I apologize)

    5. I was also told something along these lines. There is a way to make say cultural armor for a race. Then you imbue(?) it with something to make it deity specific instead of race specific. So in theory I could make Hum cultural armor and imbue(?) it by some deity, so my Hlf Elf bard could wear it within that same deity. lol, I hope that wasn't to messed up.

    6. I have heard mixed scenarios. Does Erudites have cultural armor? I have been looking up massive information on smithing and tailoring so I may have gotten it mixed up. But, I have read that they do not have cultural armor, and they do. Maybe, they do but it's not worth mentioning. lol

    Bah, had a few more questions. I suppose my ADHD kicked in because now I can't think of any of them or what they pertain to. lol Any assistance on answering any of these questions would be appreciated.

  • #2
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    • #3
      Erudite smithing is virtually non-existent. If you want to smith to do one of the shawl quests or the like, have at it and stop before 200, so you can GM tailoring.

      Diety of the smith makes no difference on what armor imbues a smith can make.

      As for what race to make your smith if you want to smith over 200, that's something you need to decide based on why you are smithing (an what your server's market is). Generally people getting into tradeskills just to make money end up getting rather frustrated.
      Garshok
      95th Dreadlord, Povar-Quellious, 300 Ogre Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
      (glad the climb to 300 is finally over)

      Zopharr
      95th Priest of Brell, Povar-Quellious, 300 Dwarven Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
      (holds his 15% smithing trophy in his off hand and pretends to dual-wield - and hopes the Holy Dirt of Brell he's carried for twelve years will have a use in the new expansion)

      Rishathra
      95th Shaman of Inny, Povar-Quellious, 300 Troll Grand Master Smith
      (got so tired of looking for a troll smith for armor that I made one)

      Marzanna
      95th Necromancer, Povar-Quellious, 300 Tinker - Tailor
      (still working on Solder, Spy)

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      • #4
        [quote]Erudite smithing is virtually non-existent. If you want to smith to do one of the shawl quests or the like, have at it and stop before 200, so you can GM tailoring.

        Diety of the smith makes no difference on what armor imbues a smith can make.

        As for what race to make your smith if you want to smith over 200, that's something you need to decide based on why you are smithing (an what your server's market is). Generally people getting into tradeskills just to make money end up getting rather frustrated.[quote]

        I am getting into smithing because I want to GM in all tradeskills and this is one of few I have left. The idea of being able to make cultural armor interests me, and of course I would like to be able to sell it off to others...

        "Why don't you use the character you have so you can be part of the uber "1750" club?" While I admire this club, I figure if I have an alt and I use him to raise a skill for various reasons I am still personally raising the skill. Meaning that I am still a GM in all skills (when I reach that point). Whether part of a club or not, is irrelevant to me. I do this for myself, and my own pleasure.


        Cubwynn Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject:

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        I apologized once for the inconvenience of asking something on the forum, that is already on the website. I am in fact at work, and have only been home the last two days long enough to sleep, shower, and return to work. I am a U.S. Marshal and at the moment, you may or may not understand why that can take up so much time.

        I had these questions on my mind, I asked them. I did not flood the board as they came to me, instead I wrote them down and asked them all at once.

        My questions remain, with faith that someone will take the time to answer them...

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        • #5
          Nizzr,

          For questions#4, 21

          For Question #5 when you get home click "Learn a Skill" on the main page, and read the smithing guides and the FAQ sticky at the top of the smithing forum. Sorry, it's too much data to try an summarize in a post.

          For question #6, Erudite smithing is limited to making threads used in Erudite tailoring. There is no Erudite cultural plate or chain. (They do, however, have tailored armor usable by plate and cloth classes)

          For question #1, if all you want to do is skill up to 250 on a character, then skill up your necro-that will be fastest. If, on the other hand, you want to make money at smithing, look at a new character as Erudite smithing is very limited. While your erudite could make Tae Ew or PoP armor, just like your half-elf he would not be able to make any cultural plate. What race to make your smithing mule would depend on your particular server's economy.

          For question #2, regarding deity for a new smith, basically just pick something in line with most of that race. For example, if you decide to skill up a human or a gnome, it is probably best not to pick Inny or Bertoxx for a diety. Sure, you could still skill up on smithing and make Fierce Heraldic or the new gnome stuff for any diety you wanted, but being evil could be a hassle in most of Antonica and Faydwer. (Alternatively, if you don't mind faction issues, pick whatever diety you want).

          Question #3 I can't help you with.
          Garshok
          95th Dreadlord, Povar-Quellious, 300 Ogre Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
          (glad the climb to 300 is finally over)

          Zopharr
          95th Priest of Brell, Povar-Quellious, 300 Dwarven Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
          (holds his 15% smithing trophy in his off hand and pretends to dual-wield - and hopes the Holy Dirt of Brell he's carried for twelve years will have a use in the new expansion)

          Rishathra
          95th Shaman of Inny, Povar-Quellious, 300 Troll Grand Master Smith
          (got so tired of looking for a troll smith for armor that I made one)

          Marzanna
          95th Necromancer, Povar-Quellious, 300 Tinker - Tailor
          (still working on Solder, Spy)

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          • #6
            In your place I would wait a little more.

            First of all LoY will be released soon and we don't know yet what kinda armor will the frogs be able to wear. (Huge new market!)

            Also, SOE is working on adding some bridge recipes (shhh don't tell anyone!) to make the skilling up past fineplate a tad less painful.

            In your place I would certainly forget about the half elf's and the erudite's skill at this point since if you want to make a smith then a race with nice cultural armor is the way to go (human, barbarian, ogre, high elf, dark elf....in this order), also picking a race what has no GM smith on your server would be a wise idea as well.

            The diety of the smith does not matter.

            In your place I would make a cleric/shaman for the smithing and level him up to 29 so he can do the imbuing as well. Minor help but help non the less.

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            • #7
              Personally, My advice to you, if you are considering starting a smith, would be to go with a Human Cleric of Erollissi. PL her up to 29. At that point you can imbue the cheapest gem and can skill all the way up to 250 without having to worry about anything else. Use one of the guides on the main site to get the smith up to skill 188, once there farm the heck out of the components to make the old-style FP cultural with your Necro, and while you are at it, farm the heck out of HQ ore and FS in a place like SolA (or if you just want to do FS and cash do HGs or something).

              With a set up like that, you should be able to get to the 250 range as easily as you could any other way(if not easier) and you will be able to make a profit of your plat investment just selling the stuff back to vendors. You won't have to worry about any really difficult to get components either (until you get to the new cultural), or worrry about an enchanter (until you get to the new cultural).
              Arrakeen Naed'Shoj
              Smith and Priest of Tunare's Blessings

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              • #8
                Your replies have been very helpful and are greatly appreciated... I have so many FAQ's and Guides on smithing I have made a seperate binder for it (overboard?), heh.

                I was thinking of the HMN CLR idea myself, but would not have come up with Erollisi. I will do the research on my server, I know of one other GM smith that is human but not sure about active. I play on the Saryrn server, and I never ever see advertisements for GM's of any skill offering services, Maybe jewelcraft once in a while.

                Thanks again...

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