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  • #16
    Start a pool for 65th level froggie. . .

    i'm betting 23days until the first level 65.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Railina
      Start a pool for 65th level froggie. . .

      i'm betting 23days until the first level 65.
      Nah, it'll be less then that. If a guild PLs him, it would take less then a week, if they really try, I think it could be done in about 5 days.

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      • #18
        I did not find a cultural forge in Gukta. Perhaps they can wear the DE adamantite armors or mithril. The mid range DE cultural accomodates half elves. That would look awesome to have a red and black frog wear adamantite.

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        • #19
          I'm sure that DE armor will be really welcome in Gukta: Outpost of Marr.


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          • #20
            They will have cultural baking

            Ribwich anyone (ok really bad refernece to the simpsons episode :P )

            And Boleslaw for a race that allies themselves with an EVIL EYE (same faction) i dont think they would be that adverse to de armor. After all it the smithed armor of the gods :P
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            • #21
              Well, if a wood elf ranger can wear gnome skin into ak'anon, strange things are possible.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by OberonMiM
                They will have cultural baking

                Ribwich anyone (ok really bad refernece to the simpsons episode :P )

                And Boleslaw for a race that allies themselves with an EVIL EYE (same faction) i dont think they would be that adverse to de armor. After all it the smithed armor of the gods :P
                You should note that the Frogloks of Guk are on a different faction from the Frogloks of Gukta.
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                • #23
                  Human Cultural

                  It'd be pretty doubtful if the frogloks couldn't wear herladic, at least the luminant kind.

                  It'd be like them able to Worship RZ and not wiering fierce herladic.
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                  • #24
                    Someone told me they can wear unimbued brellium stuff.

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                    • #25
                      It'd be pretty doubtful if the frogloks couldn't wear herladic, at least the luminant kind.

                      It'd be like them able to Worship RZ and not wiering fierce herladic.
                      Fierce Heraldic was a BIG exception. And I say big because it gives human smiths an already bigger market to the most versatile cultural Norrath.

                      Originally, though, not all races could wear it, but after warriors voiced their disappointment to their own cultural armor being geared towards clerics and hybrids they added them to the heraldic. But Dark Elves can not wear Hateful Heraldic. Halfing Paladins can not wear Thunderous Heraldic. Iksars can not wear Fulvous Darksplint. Bertoxx gnomes can not wear heraldic. The new cultural allows for much less racial crossover than the old cultural. (Humans and Half elves remain an exception by pretty much squeezing themselves into anything.)

                      That seems to be VI's new pattern, and personally I like it. There's enough competion between each race's craftsmen that allowing everyone to wear everything would have flooded the market to the point up-and-coming craftsmen might doubt it worth pursuing.

                      So bascially it comes down to if they decide not to give frogloks cultural, they might add them to heraldic. If they do give them their own cultural they most likely won't be added to heraldic. I'm just wondering what they plan to do with Vah'shir who don't worship anybody. The agnostic cultural isn't bad, but it's nothing to write home about it either.

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                      • #26
                        "Originally, though, not all races could wear it, but after warriors voiced their disappointment to their own cultural armor being geared towards clerics and hybrids they added them to the heraldic."

                        Fierce Heraldic was always wearable by a wide range of races

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                        • #27
                          Considering the Frogloks diety alignment (I'm not absolutely sure, but not many races other than human can worship Mithh Marr) And since they can Wear small/medium. I am willing to bet that the frogs will get to wear the mith marr diety stuff just because verant would probably do something like that to em = p

                          So I don't have much reasoning other than the diety but I'm pretty confident about this one.
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                          • #28
                            Fierce Heraldic was always wearable by a wide range of races
                            You completely missed my point. Yes, it was wearable by a wide range of races, but as I stated not *ALL* that are listed now. Ogres and trolls (and perhaps others, I don't remember) were NOT listed on it because they had Crimson Darkscale. THat had less hp but some mana because it was designed for shadowknights to also wear. Fierce Heraldic was changed to accomodate warriors of all races after they objected.

                            Now to clarify my point. If one's own race can make imbued armor for their deity they cannot wear another race's armor imbued for that deity. The *only* exception to this, besides the fierce heraldic, is humans and half elves which have always benefitted from wearing the widest range of armor.

                            So basically what I am saying is don't make a Froglok counting on buying them Luminant Heraldic.

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                            • #29
                              "You completely missed my point. Yes, it was wearable by a wide range of races, but as I stated not *ALL* that are listed now. Ogres and trolls (and perhaps others, I don't remember) were NOT listed on it because they had Crimson Darkscale."

                              I didnt miss your point, I was only stating that the races on Fierce Heraldic were never changed. I'm 99% sure ALL the races that can wear it now, could at its conception.

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                              • #30
                                I already know of some friends that are saving up twinking gear for their Froglok newbies. At the rate high levels are capable of accumulating gear and transferring it to their alts, I imagine there will be level 1 Froglok warriors bouncing about with 450+ HP; Froglok wizards and clerics flipping newbie spells with hundreds of mana points to spare; and Marr Paladins that will be hard enough to touch at level 1-10, let alone hit, because of their gear.

                                Is twinking wrong? I can't say. I razz my friends about the degree to which they twink their newbs, but I have to admit that even though I poke jest in their general direction, if I have something left over from a higher level character, I hand it down to an alt if they can use it. The availability of items through Bazaar trading doesn't make the temptation to twink any less severe, either.

                                I personally admire anyone with the fortitude to start a newbie character from scratch and make them earn everything they get. It's commendable, if a little time consuming, but I think it's worth the effort and worth no small amount of pride. I try to get my newbies through their inital armor and class quests before I give them any "inherited" toys. It helps me get the lay of the land, so to speak. The only character I don't twink beyond Bazaar trading is my main. But to view him is subjective in the area of twinking.

                                So all that long-windedness aside, I think someone, on some server, will manage a Froglok 65 level something before the first week is over. Perhaps in as little as 3 days, if the player is on vacation or has no life.

                                What does this have to do with the original topic of Froglok smithing? Only so much as to say that tradeskillers are the only ones who will concern themselves about it. Everyone else will merely grab the best available gear for their new characters, cultural or not.

                                Luck to all new Frogloks!
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