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    Just wanted to report on something that may effect our human smiths. I've been hunting Seafury Cyclopses for fun, profit, and xp for a few months now, and I've always kept the Mugs of Seafoam that they drop for a human smith in the guild. Normally I would get between 10-25 on a normal night of 3-4 hours playing (along with a bazillion #^&@ toes). Last night, however, it was quite apparent that the drop rate has been changed rather drastically. After killing about 30 cyclopses, I would expect at least 8-12 Mugs of Seafoam, along with research items, cyclops toes, and probably 1-3 high end drop gems. Last night's haul was 2 Mugs of Seafoam, a normal complement of research items and cyclops toes, 1 high end gem (still relatively normal), and 4 #$^& Cyclops Eyes.

    Human smiths may want to consider that when they look forward to skilling up on the Freeport Cultural armor. The drop rate seems to have been nerfed. I'll post more data this week as I hunt.

    EDIT Got 3 gems, 6 eyes, and 4 mugs of seafoam 2/5 after killing about 40 Cyclopses.


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  • #2
    /Sigh
    :?

    :evil:

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    • #3
      Yes, the drop rate has apparently changed.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

      Now what the hell am I gonna skill up on?

      Windstones are f'in rare.
      Mugs of Sea Foam are f'in rare.
      Blue Diamonds are rare.
      Nightmare Mephit Blood is a PITA, rare, and costs a fortune to skillup on.
      Tae Ew Blood is rare, and costs a fortune to skillup on.

      WTF is left for a Human smith to have a reasonable skillup path?

      I'm not talking cheap, but not each combine costing 500pp.
      20 Combines of Imbued Field Plate Bracers usually costs me about 1k.

      There's nothing reasonable left to skillup on, this is total insanity!
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      • #4
        :shock:

        Holy [explitive removed] ....

        :evil: :evil:

        And it's not like you need only 1 of those per temper either. Sheez, this makes it about as rare as Qeynos Royal Temper? Maybe even worse?

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        • #5
          Odd, I've been buying them at the same pace for awhile now. I've even begun getting more because people know to hang on to them Now

          I still need to get people to fish though, I hate sitting in OOT for hours just to get those ****ed Weeds
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          • #6
            Can drop rates differ from one server to the next? My guild on Quellious has taking to camping OOT and we have had plentiful amounts of Sea Foam drop. More than once, I have seen it on various vendors across the old world and new (Halas even). Perhaps there are few human smiths on my server that are looking for it but they don't seem to be all that rare.
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            • #7
              the addition of eyes in the loot table would slow the drop rate down somewhat i'd guess. Im just glad im a dwarf.

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              • #8
                I've been actively killing seafuries recently. The mug drop rate doesn't seem much different than earlier, however I will have occasional dry runs of 8 or 10 homers without seeing a mug of sea foam. I have never seen one drop from Quag, nor from the tainted or corrupted seafuries.

                The eyes seem to be on their own table. I have killed a seafury before and seen research, mug and eye all on the corpse.

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                • #9
                  This is silly...go vendor mining. When the first pre-emptive whining started about the sea foam mugs after the patch message noting the eyes were dropping, I took the time to notice the mugs (which I never bothered before).

                  Today just breezing through the bazaar, some of shadowhaven, and PoK I found no less than a DOZEN vendors carrying mugs. Considering that level of availability, I'd also bet that most of those vendors had multiples.

                  WTF is left for a Human smith to have a reasonable skillup path?
                  The same things that barbarian, half elf, vah shir, and troll smiths have...acrylia, shadowscream, and mistletoe sickles.

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                  • #10
                    No, it's not silly. You need 2 mugs of sea foam for every sea temper and when you are doing big combining runs that amounts to alot of sea foam. I go vendor mining all the time in the likely locations (OOT, Freeport etc.) and can never get enough of the stuff. I pester friends, organize seafury hunting parties, haunt the Bazaar and even solo the wretched things - but still constantly run out.

                    Unless I completely devote my game to farming this one item, it will take me a long time to get anywhere in high end smithing. Which is perhaps the intent of the game designers and is certainly more or less true for all the folks stuck with shadowscream skilling up. Huge timesinks like this are still, sadly, the norm for EQ.

                    As for whining, I would never have even tried GM smithing if my character hadn't had the cultural avenue to go. Why they would want to wreck even this is beyond me.

                    But then these are same people who invented the Bergugle camp, amongst other mind-numbing horrors...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Araon
                      No, it's not silly. You need 2 mugs of sea foam for every sea temper and when you are doing big combining runs that amounts to alot of sea foam. I go vendor mining all the time in the likely locations (OOT, Freeport etc.) and can never get enough of the stuff. I pester friends, organize seafury hunting parties, haunt the Bazaar and even solo the wretched things - but still constantly run out.

                      Unless I completely devote my game to farming this one item, it will take me a long time to get anywhere in high end smithing. Which is perhaps the intent of the game designers and is certainly more or less true for all the folks stuck with shadowscream skilling up. Huge timesinks like this are still, sadly, the norm for EQ.

                      As for whining, I would never have even tried GM smithing if my character hadn't had the cultural avenue to go. Why they would want to wreck even this is beyond me.

                      But then these are same people who invented the Bergugle camp, amongst other mind-numbing horrors...
                      Try High Elven Smithing... Morning Dew is my bane.

                      Not to mention that I don't even have the option of a non-enchanted cultural that trivs higher than 190.
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                      • #12
                        I just started fishing the components for sea temper and am very happy with my success. In 2 days I have made 15 tempers and have 51 mugs of seafoam and 22 saltwater seaweeds in my packs. I sit and fish next to the pier on the sisters island and say /ooc WTB mugs of seafoam. Players usually ask for 6-9pp each and I have no problem paying it. I have yet to kill a cyclops. In a week or two I should have enough tempers to do some serious skilling up. Much better alternative to shadowscream IMHO. I really like my new fisherman's companion btw. Thank god for my Lodi shield. Would have drowned for sure after falling in the water drunk. Couldn't swim or even open a backpack for my old fishbone earring ops:

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                        • #13
                          I don't know what your problem is, but seriously do like the one guy says, go fishing for the sea weed, /ooc WTB mugs of sea foam, (I offer 4pp, but I'm cheap) and if you're all fished out, bind there, go exp for a hour or two, quest or something come back /ooc and you'll get all you need most likely.
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                          • #14
                            The problem isn't that I can't get sea foam.

                            The problem is that I find it difficult to get sufficient quantities of sea foam without devoting every minute of the game to the process.

                            I have done 420 smithing combines since I hit 188, a combination of field plate and imbued field plate (and gotten, yes, 21 skill ups, no complaints about that). That's 840 mugs of sea foam I've collected so far. Yes, I can get a stack here and a stack there but for every run of 60 combines I need 120 sea foams.

                            Part of the problem may well be that I am not the only human smith on my server attempting to skill up this way. I recently rezzed a couple of people who had run afoul of the corrupted seafury (happens alot) and, as usual, was going to ask for any sea foams they had instead of a donation. Before I could say anything they mentioned they were only there to help a fellow guildie collect sea foams for his smithing....

                            Before the patch the drop rate was not terribly high. My concern was that the patch would lower even that rate, thus making a difficult task close to impossible. At this point my guess is the drop rate has not been lowered, based on my own and other people's observations.

                            Only gotten one cyclops eye to drop so far, maybe the shammy alchemists should be the ones complaining
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                            • #15
                              Well, the whole point to it is, I believe, that GMing smithing is not supposed to be fast OR easy.

                              I find that sea foam is not a real bottleneck for me. But then, I rarely do runs of more than 30 pieces, as I sell all that I make, in the bazaar.

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