Hmm ~ New Useful Smithing Ideas

[Caprich]

After reading the post about cultural armor probably not having future sets... I thought we should start a thread for ideas of things that could be made by smithing in the future that would still be useful...

*stares at the screen blankly*

Too early in the morning for me to have an idea... hope someone out there has some good ones!

[Aldier]

If crafted armor is to be relegated to only create group level armor then it is fairly simple to create armor that takes a template (can add a new level of templates above Tantalum depending on skill level increase that is possibly needed with the next expansion) and then a dropped item that creates the armor (no symbols and armor just 1 piece). Perhaps put a slot 7 for a group aug and a new slot for a separate tradeskill crafted augment that are new and can be added to improve it to a slightly better form to put on par with the next tier higher group armor drops. Similar to the crystallos type 12 aug but not a type 12 that improves Tier 3 SoF group armor to Tier 4 SoF group armor levels.


Another idea, NEW weapons.

[Kcalehc]

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Another idea, NEW weapons.

Yes, yes and yes.

There is a huge space in smithing where weapons stopped and armour carried on. GoD and TBS added a few weapons, and not all that bad really - but nothing spectacular or useable much beyond 55-60. Definately room for some decent stuff, if not cultural weapons (which are probably still in game, but very underused) then something more general.

[Zolina]

I'd like to be able to smith one of the classic blacksmith's items: horseshoes! Maybe make it a long quest to make 4 horseshoes and combine with the bridle so the shoed horse can run faster, of course we'd have to double the number of mounts to handle the shoed/unshoed status.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I'd like to be able to smith one of the classic blacksmith's items: horseshoes! Maybe make it a long quest to make 4 horseshoes and combine with the bridle so the shoed horse can run faster, of course we'd have to double the number of mounts to handle the shoed/unshoed status.

Except the "Max speed" horse will not be made faster than they are. so it would have some "ending" issues.

[Kcalehc]

I'd like to be able to smith one of the classic blacksmith's items: horseshoes! Maybe make it a long quest to make 4 horseshoes and combine with the bridle so the shoed horse can run faster, of course we'd have to double the number of mounts to handle the shoed/unshoed status.

Nice idea, but you'd need to introduce the 'Farrier' skill to put them on the horses... heh.

[Neebat]

Except the "Max speed" horse will not be made faster than they are. so it would have some "ending" issues.

What about upgrading the acceleration / deceleration times? It seems like that's where horse shoes could really make a difference, and it doesn't affect the max speed.

Putting shoes on horses is easy. You get a gnome, and give him the horse shoe. Tell him it's a hat...

[Ngreth Thergn]

What about upgrading the acceleration / deceleration times? It seems like that's where horse shoes could really make a difference, and it doesn't affect the max speed.

Putting shoes on horses is easy. You get a gnome, and give him the horse shoe. Tell him it's a hat...

A code change of some sort, but more reasonable. It is something I can consider, but I have no promises for it.

[Neebat]

A code change of some sort, but more reasonable. It is something I can consider, but I have no promises for it.

If you do put in a code request, make sure the acceleration/deceleration modifier can come from an aug. That way you can avoid the headaches of implementing 100 different variations of every mount, and the recipes to combine and uncombine them.

[Bedazzlerr]

I would dearly love to see someway to unattune armor and stuff. Ie jewelers unattune jewelry, smiths armor/weapons etc. Make it a quest to get the skill to be able to do it. Can out a timer on it liek there is on enchanting dwerium etc.

[Kcalehc]

A thought occured to me that something akin to the dwerium jewelry could be done with armour (or even weapons, but my thought was about armour initially) to allow some degree of customisation.

Making a basic template piece of armour, with perhaps just some AC on it, related to the level of the metal used (Silver Plated Breastplate, Electrum Plated Breastplate etc for example); then having a bunch of aug slots (of a suitable type) to customise to whatever you desire. Types could be 7, 10, 10 and 11 allowing the same jc gems and scaling in much the same way. EDIT: Thinking about it now, early in the morning, theres probbly enough templates spare from the new smithing stuff that was put in. Like Tin/silvril/rubicite/titanium that currently aren't used for anything that could be used here, with a enchanted silver/electrum/etc... in place of a cultural metal and store bought mold; essentially following the same pattern as cultural with a couple minor changes.

(Of course similar things could be added to tailoring with silver/electrum/etc studs/boning/silk to keep them happy too )

just a thought anyway.

Otherwise I'm still keen on getting more weapons to make, the ones now aren't superb - though still decent in some areas.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I would dearly love to see someway to unattune armor and stuff. Ie jewelers unattune jewelry, smiths armor/weapons etc. Make it a quest to get the skill to be able to do it. Can out a timer on it liek there is on enchanting dwerium etc.

I asked about this and got an absolute NO. (came up in the AA ideas thread)

[Bedazzlerr]

Was probably my post there as well. Thanks for the info.

[Neebat]

A thought occured to me that something akin to the dwerium jewelry could be done with armour (or even weapons, but my thought was about armour initially) to allow some degree of customisation.

Making a basic template piece of armour, with perhaps just some AC on it, related to the level of the metal used (Silver Plated Breastplate, Electrum Plated Breastplate etc for example); then having a bunch of aug slots (of a suitable type) to customise to whatever you desire. Types could be 7, 10, 10 and 11 allowing the same jc gems and scaling in much the same way.

I think that's a pretty awesome idea. But there are plenty of tradeskillers who also raid. They'd be pretty disappointed if there were no way to make it "raid level". The key is, to make sure they have to take out the normal augs to replace them with raid augs. The whole cultural debacle could have been avoided if there were group type-12's.

[Ntuok]

I would like to see a set of "personal" armor that could be made to replace or be the next step in the defunct cultural armor line. This armor, when made would be no drop/no trade.

Ntuok
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