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  • Collapsible Forge?

    We have collapsible TS containers for every single tradeskill except smithing.

    Isn't it about time to add a collapsible forge?

  • #2
    I believe that there won't be one as a forge isn't something that can easily be picked up and moved.

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    • #3
      We definitely want one, but according to previous discussions, it's not looking especially likely.

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      • #4
        There isn't a foldable brew barrow i don't think.

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        • #5
          Collapsed Distillery: lucy item id 17522

          Not a real link because this stupid bbs software has dumb rules forbidding me from posting links, or anything even remotely resembling a hyperlink.


          As far as "logic" goes, this is a fantasy game.
          My main reasoning for wanting a portable version of the one left-out tradeskill is a little convenience (much like the reasoning for all the other ones).
          Lots of subcombines are smithing, and it's incredibly annoying to come up to a forge for a couple of combines, only to find that someone has afk'd with it open.

          I really don't see it as unbalancing to allow a portable, say 6 slot forge. It'll be just like all the other tradeskills. If you need more slots than that, go to a stationary tradeskill container. But if all you need are metal bits, use the convenient portable version.

          Regarding Ngreth's objection to a forge on the grounds that there's no way to require fuel, how does that fit in with the spit? You need fuel to cook food, after all. You also need heat in order to make many beverages.
          Further to this, distillation and fermentation are not instantaneous processes. They can take weeks or months to complete, and yet take no time at all in Everquest.
          Our heroes can even do complicated tailoring or jewel craft while hacking at a group of 30 monsters!

          There is such a thing as taking "realism" too far in a fantasy game.
          Last edited by Lillith; 02-25-2008, 10:33 AM.

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          • #6
            Linky: Collapsed Distillery

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KyrosKrane View Post
              Linky: Collapsed Distillery
              (As a side note, it's fun to say "various nefarious" aloud.)
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              More on topic, I would also like to see the forge made portable for field work, even if only while out with a reasonably large expeditionary force such as a raid... not that anyone ever gets bored on a raid in EQ, waiting on discs to renew or MGB recycle times or anything else. I was just thinking of the support personnel that might be necessary to keep such a device working when far afield from home resources...

              And, of course, if anyone *did* get bored while on a raid, they have gems for endless hours of time killing pleasure, right? So, the only possible practical reasoning behind having a forge along in the field would be due to the infrastructure present to support such a resource hog as a forge. So, say, a minimum "raid force" of about 6? 5? 4?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lillith View Post
                We have collapsible TS containers for every single tradeskill except smithing.
                Does Pottery have either a portable wheel or kiln?

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                • #9
                  Oh right, forgot about that one

                  Still, it's quite possible in reality to make a portable pottery wheel.
                  And a kiln would fall under a similar category to a spit.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lillith View Post
                    Oh right, forgot about that one

                    Still, it's quite possible in reality to make a portable pottery wheel.
                    And a kiln would fall under a similar category to a spit.
                    Except for the hours/days of curing time as opposed to the minutes/hours for cooking.


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                    • #11
                      Oh right, that's why I can instantaneously produce a bowl, and then fire it in less than 1 second

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                      • #12
                        I swear there was a discussion about Collapsible Forge sometime in the past. I even remember someone linking a RL field forge that weighed in the neighborhood of 25lbs. or something. To be sure, it was VERY basic, but a forge nonetheless.
                        I don't know what the rational is, frankly, though I assume it has been argued back and forth repeatedly and I don't expect to ever seen one ( nor do I expect we'll get a Pottery Wheel or Kiln, for that matter). Shame though.
                        Ybolla Vyrus
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                        • #13
                          Believe this is what you are referring to.

                          http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=54330

                          Yther Ore.

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                          • #14
                            Never seen that before. Thanks.
                            What I was actually referring to was something more like http://thurstanm.tripod.com/id7.html. A "real life" example of a collapsible/portable forge. If ever there was an argument for the possibility for one to exist I'd think that'd do it.
                            Ybolla Vyrus
                            Gnome Enchantress
                            Solusek Ro
                            "Change is the only constant in the universe"

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                            • #15
                              Awespme .. and bah! I'm too blind .. skipped right over the RL part of that sentence

                              Yther Ore.

                              EDIT: And I can't type either
                              Last edited by Yther; 03-16-2008, 10:45 AM. Reason: Fixed typos

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