Elemental planes rare smithing drops locations and experienc

[SinolaAB]

Hello all fellow forge masters!
Long time reader of the boards and felt the responsibility to post about my smithing experiences in the elemental planes. This info is from my own experience and is by no means complete, however I hope that it can at least help someone.

First of all my opinions. Earth, Water and Air legendary plate/chain.... in order of 'doability I rank them:

Water
Earth
Fire
Air


Each elemental plain drops rare components of smithing and ultra rares for smithing. You will have not too much problem getting the metals however getting the stuff for the tempers is a *&^@# pain in the you know where! I am part of a large successful raiding guild and have access to all the drops we receive in order to possibly make something nice for someone. The problem is the drops are way way way rare for certain places.

Air...we killed the avatars and a TON of mobs on about 4 raids and we have ABSOLUTELY NO gaseous condesate or fog fragments (did I mention you need 3 fog fragments to make 4 crushed fog fragments?)! .

Earth...our off raid hours XP zone.... 2 raids and hundreds of hours of XP groups net a big fat ONE chip of granite (also need 3 chips to make 4 crushed hahaha yay) and 3 vials of liquified earth

Water.. the only and I mean ONLY elemental plane balanced in my opinion in terms of drops and dificulty. We have raided this zone I think 5 times or so and managed to score 8 soapstones (have 8 powdered soapstones for tempers) however the shimmering fish gils are pretty rare they are at least droping. Soapstones drop off the light greenFrog-looking guys and the shimmering fish gills drop off the little Faydedar looking guys. What did I make? Failed 1 plate bracer and made 2 chain bracers.

If they fix the other plins drops at least to the rarity of water then it wont be so bad....ever wonder why there are so few earth, fire,air armor made? Because either we have not found the magical missing mob that drops the rare component needed or it is just plain broken. After having kiled bazilions of mobs in each location however I am of the opinion that the drop rate needs to be tweaked a bit. (or even added in the first place).

Sinola
www.mortalis.com

[Koner]

They've (SOE) has never fixed the drop rate on windstones to balance it with the drop rate of essence of wind what makes you think that they will balance the drop rates in the elemental planes to make it easier to make armor that is far superior to acrylia. Balancing the drops so that they are HONESTLY available to ALL players would go against SOE's long standing policy of catering to the power gamers, uberguilds and the financially rich gamers. It would mean that they actually consider the casual gamer to be a valuable member of the tradeskill comunity.

[Kindir]

koner, why would windstones be balanced against essence of wind? how's that got anything to do with drop rates in the elemental planes?

anyway, sounds like the drop rates are indeed way too low, i still have to kill rallos to find out for myself...

are the tailoring supplies as rare in the elemental planes?

[kiztent]

koner, why would windstones be balanced against essence of wind? how's that got anything to do with drop rates in the elemental planes?

The point, I believe, is that it's possible to farm 20 EoWs and 5 windstones in about the same time, from the same mobs, meaning that 18 of the EoWs you farm are... wasted (combine acrylia temper being 2 windstones, 1 essence of wind and 1 clear mana vial).

From what I see, the drop rates are too low for all of the planar tempers, so this is hardly new to the elemental planes.

[Raiyaeq]

Actually my experience toward smithing parts is a little different than yours.

Earth - I have 6 chips of granite and 5 liquified earth but what I dont have is the earth mephit blood. I've been having a hard time to get a balance group out there to hunt the blood.
Fire - Metallic substance has been the problem (3 dropped so far)
Water - fish gill (same problem as yours, I've seen 1 so far after few raids and some xp hours)
Air - I've always missed the air raid so I don't really have anything but the air mephit blood.

So for me, I'd say earth is the most doable one as long as I can get the earth mephit blood.

[Gluwenie]

Curious, What are you getting the vials of liquid earth from? im not seeing those at all but i have plenty of the other drops

[Iustus]

I have slightly different perspective.

Earth - easiest. Can single group (even solo with bots) and farm all the drops. Granite is the rarest item by quite a bit, next hardest is liquified earth. The blood is only rare because it is hard to find mephits for a single group. There is the single spawn on the wall, the others you need tricks to split for pulls.

Fire - this is the next easiest (perhaps even the easiest, need to spend more time here). Metallic Substance is the rare piece here. All pieces can be farmed with an exp group.

Water - The big problem here is the soapstones and ecian ice both drop off red con mobs deep into the zone, making it quite difficult for a single group to farm (I have not tried it yet).

Air - metal is pretty common, the blood is insanely common, have never seen the other two drops, I wonder if they actually are on the drop table.

-Iustus

[Raiyaeq]

Gluwenie - liquified earth

Gluwenie

Liquified earth is drop off from earthen mudwalker etc.

[sofaltis]

My 2 cp

Haven't spent much time in Air or fire yet.

Water -
-6 fish gills - seem to be random across all types of fish and the faedaer looking mini-dragons.
-3 soapstones
-3 bricks of ice (everyone on guildraids fight for these for cams, JC, and smithing)
-and about 8 bloods (although many of those went to enchanters/mages for the imbue spell)

all in all not too bad other than the soapstone / bricks

Earth
-3 granite chips (rare as all get out - guild pulled rocks from the first mesa for 3 hours last night got all of 2 chips....)
-2 liquid earth (rare off the mudmen, but not as bad as granite chips)
-8 metal bars (metal is fairly common - but in demand by other skills as well)
- 2 bloods (fairly common actually just needed for alot of skills/imbue spells)

Personally I have found water more giving of the materials but that could be since the guild has done more fighting there as of late.

~Sofaltis

[SinolaAB]

anyone make any of the fire legendary plate or chain?

Stat wise from the one piece listed on the main site seems inferior, a bit like cultural however I am skeptical as fire is sort of harder to get to "sol ro access'.

Would like to see if anyone has tried some other ele fire stuff.
Seems the water ele is the best.

Would really like to see whats up with the drops in air. NOONE is getting the rares for the tempers. Fix this!

Sinola
www.mortalis.com

[jugador]

I'm 95% certain the temper ingredients from air are NOT on the loot tables.

If you want fish gills and have guild support, pull a few waves of the Indif Fishlord summoner's ring. The drop rate there is excellent compared to farming fish at zone, however it is quite a bit harder.

[SinolaAB]

still no air drops.

[SinolaAB]

one more week of clearing hundreds of mobs in plane of air and have absolutely NO air temper gaseous condesate or fog fragments components. Killing mobs all the way up to Xegonny and nothing.

Can anyone confirm where portion of metalicsubstances drop? This is for the fire temper. Have not seen this yet either.

[Hyarth]

Can anyone confirm where portion of metalicsubstances drop? This is for the fire temper. Have not seen this yet either.

They drop off magmas. Now, where are you getting your magma crystals? I'm sitting here with twice as many substances as I need for the magma crystals I've collected. Not that I have much of either.

[Raiyaeq]

Now, where are you getting your magma crystals

magma crystals drop from magma and spiders (odd). We spent about 5 hours the other night xp near the fennin castle (right hill if you are going into as you go for fennin event). I have yet to see one metallic substance drop there. But I did see some drop off from the magma guardians near the first castle. (magmas that roams on the bridge). So far I ahve 5 metallic substance and 10+ magma crystals, waiting for 2 more and I am going to try for a pair plate legs.