Viable skillup Path 261+

[AB-girlie]

i went from 297 to 300 on those.. got skillups like on everything else. think the good luck was with me though ) under 150 combines for the last 3 skillups.

[Zopharr]

/cry 50 combines and not one skillup at skill 288. I am guessing this is one of those combines NGreth was talking about having low skillup chances.

The RNG is notoriously fickle. While bad streaks are less frequent that they were before the skill-up progressions were smoothed out, runs of 100 and even 200 combines without a skill-up were pretty common - everyone had a few.

If you are at 288, I'd recommend waiting for the new path coming out in the 3 October patch.

Garshok

P.S. If I recall correctly, Ngreth said there weren't any combines that actually had a 'negative' chance, but rather it was a byproduct of the max success caps on some recipes. Since you get an extra roll to increase skill when you succeed, you would fail at an artificially high rate (compared to skill) on some combines, missing the extra skill-up rolls which - if strength was under 401 or something (don't quote me on the number) actually combined to make you less likely to skill up on those recipes.

[Gaell Stormracer]

It's not an extra skill-up roll, but that the chance to skill up on a failure is the same as the chance to skill up on a success when you have 400 or higher STR, INT or WIS. This means that it's quite viable to skip easier but more expensive/harder to get combines if you can get your stats up to that level - the shaman "cap-breaking" buffs can help significantly with this in the Guild Hall, where the buff timers do not tick down.

[Zopharr]

It's not an extra skill-up roll, but that the chance to skill up on a failure is the same as the chance to skill up on a success when you have 400 or higher STR, INT or WIS. This means that it's quite viable to skip easier but more expensive/harder to get combines if you can get your stats up to that level - the shaman "cap-breaking" buffs can help significantly with this in the Guild Hall, where the buff timers do not tick down.

Ages and ages ago (6+ years) many thought there was an extra 'roll' to skill-up on a success. At that point (pre-PoP) stats were capped at 255, so there would have been a pretty noticible difference between skill-ups on success vs. failure, unlike nowadays when most folks sport stats in the 400s.

Ah, well, guess I need to abandon old theories. Next someone will tell me the world isn't flat.

Thanks,

Garshok

[Aethn]

Well I play on Test so i already have access to the new drops, and they are making life so much easier for the 250+ tradeskiller.

I have been using cobalt and tungsten blanks to skillup on, so far doing very well. I was stuck at 278 for a long time. But I remembered Inferno's so I wanted to give them a shot since I was so close to 300. I had 512 STR and all the max AA, only failed 2 out of 50 so I made 48 scepters. After getting at least one skillup in 20-30 combines on the new stuff I was hoping 50 Infernos would push me to 290 or 291 since they triv at 335.

But alas, I wasted 125,000 pp.

[Ilona]

I got Zopharr from 280-297 in 107 sacred symbol combines, then made another 40-odd Underfoot Brellium Bracers to get to 300. Took a couple weeks – and an hour farming in Ssraa – to buy all the symbol components, but I figured the sacred symbols saved me about 240 combines. If you don’t hit 300 by the patch, the blue diamond cultural will not be getting changed, and generally tributes well.

You did better than me, then! I had about 180 sacred symbol combines and only got from 280 to 293

[Zopharr]

You did better than me, then! I had about 180 sacred symbol combines and only got from 280 to 293

Well, I did have incredible luck - 11 skillups in the first 44 combines. Second run wasn't quite as good - 6 skill-ups in 63 combines - but still pretty darn sweet.

Now just have those last four points for Rishathra . . . .

Garshok

[qinny]

half ef

looking for a smithing combine for a half elf to get me to 300+ and that tribs
like the dwf underfoot stuff ........

[Zopharr]

looking for a smithing combine for a half elf to get me to 300+ and that tribs
like the dwf underfoot stuff ........

Half-elves didn't get any cultural before DoN, so think you are stuck with the Shadowscream/Tae Ew/Sunshard and the current stuff. Nothing really tributable.

I believe I saw that the trivial for Mistletoe Cutting Sickles wasn't rolled back to 250 as planned. May be a small window of opportunity - costs 350-400pp per attempt (can't recall exactly) and tributes for 1320. That window could close next patch at the end of this month or by the time SOF comes out. Indeed, if it is still open.

Garshok

[Wyvernwill]

To my knowledge, Half Elves should be able to do Template combines. Dwarves can do tailored template combines /shrug.

[Ngreth Thergn]

And I do warn. Next items patch MCS is getting its adjustment. I have made the change, it just will not happen until the next items patch.

[Zopharr]

Will the rate at which the smithing trophy gains exp from 12% to 15% be reduced, as the stor-bought method is eliminated?

Thanks,

Garshok

[Ngreth Thergn]

yup. Already done waiting for the same patch that will adjust MCS (and Inferno Scepter)

[Abazagaroth]

yup. Already done waiting for the same patch that will adjust MCS (and Inferno Scepter)

You're fogetting the by far easiest vendor skillup path. Enchanted velium bar thing. Need to nerf that too.

[Khaymn]

Tae ew weps are IMO easier...as they dont require and hides/skins.
I did tae ew 2hander triv of 295...they also tribute for 3675 each.
One blood from froglok, sarnak, iksar and tae ew are needed as well as one sheet metal and molds for heavy steel blade, hilt and pommel.

When I was short on bloods to make into tempers I did some old school cultural bracers. For ogres I needed elven, human and dwarven bloods.
Lots of BD's and some enchanted adamantite......A slight pita but the bracers tributed for 7278 each..and triv at 335.
Dont know any other race's old school cultural armour recipes, but I am sure they are similar, with similar tribute amounts.

Another sucky way was sickles....however I read somewhere that they are nerfin the skill/triv needed for them.

TS trophy was fun maxing too. I started mine after hitting 300 smithing so when I completed the quest...my trophy was at 6/7 for 12%.
I did sickles til it was max 7/7 at 15%.
It was pretty much 100 successful combines per 1% equalling 1000 combines to max it.