Mistletoe Cutting Sickles

[Bumkus]

Decided to burn through some Blessed Dusts I've accumalated, just to free up bank space. So I decided to do a few MCS's even though only at 230's skill. Hey, I was able to click out 1400 MTP's for my final baking run, so MCS's should be no problem. They should only be only moderately more challenging than MTP's, right?

Well the good new is that I got a couple skillups. But holy connoli this is a difficult recipe to manage. Nothing stacks.

unstackable molds to make unstackable hilts and such, all feeding into unstackable finished goods. And the vendors seem to be scattered all over the place. I am actually getting to know Shadowhaven by memory now. Certainly never expected that to happen, hehe.

My hats off to those who have used this as a primary smithing path. I swear EQ devs should add an evil laugh everytime you cursur over MCS in your recipe list.

[Astroshak]

I've found, for skilling on MCS, that Abysmal Sea is really convenient place to do the smithing combines.

[Bumkus]

I've found, for skilling on MCS, that Abysmal Sea is really convenient place to do the smithing combines.

Thank you for this tip. I have tried a mix of PoK and Shadowhaven thus far. Abysmal will be my next stop. Maybe knock out brewing while I am there. Seem s very convenient for that as well.

[Astroshak]

Well, for making MCS in Abysmal, I kinda took your idea that you already had the Dust, Temper, etc. already made, and were looking a place to do the actual smithing.

When I make a run of MCS, I'll get a 10 slot bag of emeralds imbued, then turn them all into Dust. I'll make as many Mistletoe Tempers as I have Dusts, and then as many CE's as I have Dust. Once thats done, a trip to AS is in order : buy 3 stacks each of Emeralds, Rubies, and Sapphires, then head to the smithing building. The molds and sheet metal are all in the same building, just a short hop away from the forge.

[Eanelder]

cant MCS be made using only components in Crescent reach?

[Zacatac]

I did all my MCS in Shadowhaven, it was definately a lot of running around though from vendor to vendor.

[Queletan]

On the plus side now, the three gems now stack to 100 (not sure about the imbued emeralds tho).

Q

[Syuni D'zpecyzczn]

On the plus side now, the three gems now stack to 100 (not sure about the imbued emeralds tho).

Q

Imbued emeralds still only stack to 20, as they are not a spell component.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

You know... when you think about it...

Gem X stacks to 100 because its used as a spell component
The only spell for which X is a component is Imbue X
Imbued X don't stack to 100

Pretty dumb if you ask me.

[muvandog]

emeralds are used as a component to the cleric Divine Intervention spell, and shaman Avatar spell, and perhaps others.

[Astroshak]

Gems stack to 100 ... but imbued gems do not ... I didn't realize that imbueing a gem made it bigger or otherwise harder to hold onto. And why is it that Blessed Dust of Tunare still stacks to 20 as well? Its a powder, shouldn't have any problem stacking to 100 if the emeralds its ultimately made from stack to 100 ...

[Ngreth Thergn]

it is the magic.

You know... like magnetics... by imbuing it it is invested with a "charge" and all the charges are the same so they repel each other when they are in the bag making them harder to fit many together!

ok, in reality... we were sooooo waaaaaaaay short on time when I was given the list that I did not have time to look up what those gems were used for, nor the results. Nor did the people that initiated the change. They did a query "What items are used as spell components" and got a list. They did not then query the "result" of the spell (probably did not even think to look at the result, because they were thinking of things like enchanter runes, and cleric spells that use peridots... not item imbues...) then they showed the list to me and I approved or denied some of the list. I thought for example... emerald was used as a component in some powerful spell, and did not even think about the imbued gems. I really had about 2 minutes spare time when I was given the list of 100 or so items, and had no time to research every possibility of use for everything on the list.

And now, though I do have the time... I have not put this on the top of my priority list.

but... you can go look at the EQ boards and see some news on this.

I hope you guys enjoy being rude... isn't the anonymity of the Internet so condusive to people being polite?

[Eanelder]

cant MCS be made using only components in Crescent reach?

Tried it the other day ... they can infact be made in Crescent Reach. Most of the stuff is available off vendors on the 2nd floor, but some of the sub combines need items off brewing vendors on the first floor. (Im starting to dislike falling to my death on the elevator )

And poor Ngreth, I think many of the people that visit fan boards consider SoE this big faceless thing out to get us and that can come out in some posts. I know Ive done it before (burned forever in my mind by your response) ... Its just too easy to forget theres a real live orge behind the scenes trying to take care of a million things, trying to keep thousands of people happy.

[Maevenniia]

The original intent of changing the stack sizes to 100 for some items was to give the classes that have to carry around hundreds of spell reagents a break.

Spells that require reagents generally CONSUME the reagents, unless you have a reagent conservation focus item.

Imbue spells were not the intended target of the stack changes, as an Imbue spell converts one item into another (ie: Gem---->imbued gem) but got caught up in there as a side effect, as Ngreth explained above, he lacked time to do a thorough check.

The utter rudeness and ingratitude of some people, that these changes were done at all, and resulted in beneficial side effects for us tradeskillers, should not surprise me...

Also, as Ngreth mentioned, check out the EQlive Artisan's Way forum for news, Ngreth has very kindly consented to increase stack sizes of many more gems, including Lacquered and Imbued versions, all he asked for was a little help from posters who provided items id#s and names to save him some time, and now as of next patch those changes will go in.