I have no idea if this is the right place to post this so please forgive me if it is in the wrong spot.
To begin I have been playing EQ for a little over 5 years and have had a myriad of toons. My main is a CoA geared kitty beast (retired now as of about 3 days after the expansion, I love the Drakkin heh). Needless to say I always hated tradeskills and never even paid any attention. I was one of those who would go out and farm for the TS'ers because I was bored and I got some funds in return. Well when i had to do tailoring to make the helm so I could do my 1.5 I was upset. The game is forcing me to do something I hate. Fine whatever I did it. Several months go by and I start my 2.0, omg give me a break more tradeskills to do this one, come on SOE what are you doing to me, dont you know how much I hate tradeskills? Fine I did them and I still hated them.
Then TSS came out, I was in beta and did alot of things there but most importantly I made a little drakkin and started doing all of the quests and working the tradeskills to make his armor and all that kind of snazzy stuff. The game went live and I immeadiately set to grinding up to lvl 75 so i could get all the phat loots and be even more powerful then I already was blah blah blah. Thats when it hit me, what am I doing, all of this content I will never even see because I bypassed it all before I even gave it a chance. I absolutely love the new expansion. I made a Drakkin Ranger named Camulus. Gave him a couple of items, weapons that is, and began my adventure as if I had never played EQ before. I have completed over 60 quests and have found a newfound joy for the game. Then my RL gf started doing some baking one day and I thought ya know what I have never really concentrated on this before so let me give it a shot. That was two weeks ago and I havent been able to stop since.
Problem
Yes I have several high level toons and I am still very broke. I usually have around 6 to 10k in the bank on each of my accounts, I have two. 5 years ago I would have been rich, but today thats really nothing. So I wanted to try to give you an idea of what I have done thus far to get my TS's where they are. The posted suggested guides are very helpful but I have found that with all the new expansions and recipies they are outdated to say the least.
Before I begin it must be understood that I do have the ability to farm in mass quantity, specifically velium and do have another ranger with maxed forage.
Baking/Fishing - Abysmal Sea never left there not once except to dump a bunch of stat food in the guild bank.
First I got a fishing pole and bait, and I fished and I fished and I fished. Got several hundred pounds of crab and tuna. Conversions to 1 pound crab and tuna skilled up to around 18, then converting to meat skills to 38, cost to me so far, less then 2 plat.
Second I have all this meat time to do something with it. So I just started following the quick list recipies for tuna and crab and opened up each one to see which ones i could make without ever leaving Abysmal, ie all vendor bought stuff. Not concerned about trivials or and hating to do 10 point over skill combines I just looked at all of them. I did every tuna and crab recipe on the list with the exception of cakes and pies (these require eggs) and finsihed up on Beer Batered Tuna/Crab Rolls. Total cost to me, less then 300 plat. Next on my list will be Deep Fried Treant Hearts to 250, nice drop rate on the hearts in Blightfire Moors. Additionally my fishing got up to 114 and Brewing upto 122 doing all of this in Abysmal.
Next on my list to tackel was smithing. I looked and looked and looked for the most cost effective way to get my skill up as high as I could before I really had to start dumping plat. One item caught my eye. Fishbone Dart Tool. I had never seen nor heard of one of these, but its trivial at 146 and the items looked relativly easy to obtain. Scaler Mold, Coldain Velium Temper, and Velium Bits (2).
Scaler Molds easy, 5s in pok,
Coldain Velium Temper = {Celestial Essence(4)8p per combine} and {Coldain Heater (brewing)6g per combine}
Velium Bits = (1) Coldain Velium Temper(2.6p) and (2) small piece of velium (free).
Seems kind of steep on the pricing when you look at it considering per combine your using 6 celestial essence total. Remember this is the max value you will be spending. To off set this quite dramatically when i was farming my velium in crystal caverns I took my mixing bowl and about 5 stacks of celestial solvent. Every word and rune that drops in crystal caverns can be used to make celestial essence reducing the price to 4 gold. Do the math that drops your cost from 12 plat per celestial essence to 2.4 plat per celestial essence. Generally speaking most words and runes and gloves, tears, and scents can be used to make celestial essence. From now on i will always carry a couple stacks of solvent and my mixing bowl, hehe. I am not even going to mention all the extra minor gems and weapons you can sell in CC when farming. Not the velium weapons though, things like the frozen long sword and a couple others that drop. OK I am getting long winded, sorry I was just so excited when I was doing all of this and seeing how far I could go on so little plat. In 5 clearings of what I call the Shaft, where all the orcs are, I managed to guild bank 14 stacks of small pieces of velium, this took me just over 90 minutes. I guild banked all the velium and essence and hoped on the ranger. Step 1 celestial essence, yeah i dumped some plat to save time, but I didnt have to. raised brewing from 122 to 136 made tons and tons of this. Then I made the Coldain Heaters raised my brewing to 158, made about 380 of these 400 attempts.
Ok now my finger is getting numb and I am getting close to the skill combines, next i do the velium bits, starting skill at 54 (newbie CR quest) so these were trivial, converted all small pieces to bits. Now I am getting really excited, here comes the skill combines, skill 54 trivial 146 /em crosses fingers, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail omg just let me make one so can can save the recipe i hate dragging items. Click, fail, click bingo WOOT i made one yeehaw. Recipe saved, combine fail combine fail, No skill ups yet, O no i have done something terribly wrong. Combine woot made another one Im on a roll now, combine fail skill up, WOOT, conbine fail skill up WOOT, this cycle went on for the next 40 or so combines then i ran out of velium. Yes i have like 13 failures in a row and made two Tools, then I had and i kid you not 39 skill ups in a row, my skill went from 54 to 93 and I am only down around 150 plat so far in my excitement I ran back down to get more velium and reloaded on essence and came back for some more, I did this 3 times total about 7 hours and now my skill is 146. No I havent made any banded, files, skewers, or any of that other stuff, just the quest to 54 and this, I am so **** excited right now, cant wait to get off work and go home and do some more.
So does this sound like a reasonable plan to work up smithing, I love it and it works with my budget. Was considering spending a day or maybe two on my beast farming wos and mpg and rs to get tradeskill drops there and work on magnetic from 146, I love the huge dif in my skill and trivial, loosing the items means nothing cause its just pixels to me, but wowzers when you get that success at 54 on a 146 item it really does make Tradeskills so freaking awesome.
Starting tailoring next and I have a cheap plan for that too. I am figureing with the exception of jewelcraft I should be able to get the other 6 to 200 for a total cost of less then 5k. I have the technology, I can rebuild the system, I am keeping a detailed journal at home so i can summarize my total cost when I am done, down to the copper and i am also keeping track of how much people give me to work on this and how much I just give away.
Anywho sorry if I bored anyone or this is in the wrong spot. I am totally open to ideas and suggestions if anyone has a better option.
Camulus
Edit, o yeah i forgot to mention, the tool i made can be use with fish to make prepared fish and to get fish bones to make darts, fishing, tool made, fletching will go to 162, cost to me 0 plat. WOOT
To begin I have been playing EQ for a little over 5 years and have had a myriad of toons. My main is a CoA geared kitty beast (retired now as of about 3 days after the expansion, I love the Drakkin heh). Needless to say I always hated tradeskills and never even paid any attention. I was one of those who would go out and farm for the TS'ers because I was bored and I got some funds in return. Well when i had to do tailoring to make the helm so I could do my 1.5 I was upset. The game is forcing me to do something I hate. Fine whatever I did it. Several months go by and I start my 2.0, omg give me a break more tradeskills to do this one, come on SOE what are you doing to me, dont you know how much I hate tradeskills? Fine I did them and I still hated them.
Then TSS came out, I was in beta and did alot of things there but most importantly I made a little drakkin and started doing all of the quests and working the tradeskills to make his armor and all that kind of snazzy stuff. The game went live and I immeadiately set to grinding up to lvl 75 so i could get all the phat loots and be even more powerful then I already was blah blah blah. Thats when it hit me, what am I doing, all of this content I will never even see because I bypassed it all before I even gave it a chance. I absolutely love the new expansion. I made a Drakkin Ranger named Camulus. Gave him a couple of items, weapons that is, and began my adventure as if I had never played EQ before. I have completed over 60 quests and have found a newfound joy for the game. Then my RL gf started doing some baking one day and I thought ya know what I have never really concentrated on this before so let me give it a shot. That was two weeks ago and I havent been able to stop since.
Problem
Yes I have several high level toons and I am still very broke. I usually have around 6 to 10k in the bank on each of my accounts, I have two. 5 years ago I would have been rich, but today thats really nothing. So I wanted to try to give you an idea of what I have done thus far to get my TS's where they are. The posted suggested guides are very helpful but I have found that with all the new expansions and recipies they are outdated to say the least.
Before I begin it must be understood that I do have the ability to farm in mass quantity, specifically velium and do have another ranger with maxed forage.
Baking/Fishing - Abysmal Sea never left there not once except to dump a bunch of stat food in the guild bank.
First I got a fishing pole and bait, and I fished and I fished and I fished. Got several hundred pounds of crab and tuna. Conversions to 1 pound crab and tuna skilled up to around 18, then converting to meat skills to 38, cost to me so far, less then 2 plat.
Second I have all this meat time to do something with it. So I just started following the quick list recipies for tuna and crab and opened up each one to see which ones i could make without ever leaving Abysmal, ie all vendor bought stuff. Not concerned about trivials or and hating to do 10 point over skill combines I just looked at all of them. I did every tuna and crab recipe on the list with the exception of cakes and pies (these require eggs) and finsihed up on Beer Batered Tuna/Crab Rolls. Total cost to me, less then 300 plat. Next on my list will be Deep Fried Treant Hearts to 250, nice drop rate on the hearts in Blightfire Moors. Additionally my fishing got up to 114 and Brewing upto 122 doing all of this in Abysmal.
Next on my list to tackel was smithing. I looked and looked and looked for the most cost effective way to get my skill up as high as I could before I really had to start dumping plat. One item caught my eye. Fishbone Dart Tool. I had never seen nor heard of one of these, but its trivial at 146 and the items looked relativly easy to obtain. Scaler Mold, Coldain Velium Temper, and Velium Bits (2).
Scaler Molds easy, 5s in pok,
Coldain Velium Temper = {Celestial Essence(4)8p per combine} and {Coldain Heater (brewing)6g per combine}
Velium Bits = (1) Coldain Velium Temper(2.6p) and (2) small piece of velium (free).
Seems kind of steep on the pricing when you look at it considering per combine your using 6 celestial essence total. Remember this is the max value you will be spending. To off set this quite dramatically when i was farming my velium in crystal caverns I took my mixing bowl and about 5 stacks of celestial solvent. Every word and rune that drops in crystal caverns can be used to make celestial essence reducing the price to 4 gold. Do the math that drops your cost from 12 plat per celestial essence to 2.4 plat per celestial essence. Generally speaking most words and runes and gloves, tears, and scents can be used to make celestial essence. From now on i will always carry a couple stacks of solvent and my mixing bowl, hehe. I am not even going to mention all the extra minor gems and weapons you can sell in CC when farming. Not the velium weapons though, things like the frozen long sword and a couple others that drop. OK I am getting long winded, sorry I was just so excited when I was doing all of this and seeing how far I could go on so little plat. In 5 clearings of what I call the Shaft, where all the orcs are, I managed to guild bank 14 stacks of small pieces of velium, this took me just over 90 minutes. I guild banked all the velium and essence and hoped on the ranger. Step 1 celestial essence, yeah i dumped some plat to save time, but I didnt have to. raised brewing from 122 to 136 made tons and tons of this. Then I made the Coldain Heaters raised my brewing to 158, made about 380 of these 400 attempts.
Ok now my finger is getting numb and I am getting close to the skill combines, next i do the velium bits, starting skill at 54 (newbie CR quest) so these were trivial, converted all small pieces to bits. Now I am getting really excited, here comes the skill combines, skill 54 trivial 146 /em crosses fingers, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail, click, fail omg just let me make one so can can save the recipe i hate dragging items. Click, fail, click bingo WOOT i made one yeehaw. Recipe saved, combine fail combine fail, No skill ups yet, O no i have done something terribly wrong. Combine woot made another one Im on a roll now, combine fail skill up, WOOT, conbine fail skill up WOOT, this cycle went on for the next 40 or so combines then i ran out of velium. Yes i have like 13 failures in a row and made two Tools, then I had and i kid you not 39 skill ups in a row, my skill went from 54 to 93 and I am only down around 150 plat so far in my excitement I ran back down to get more velium and reloaded on essence and came back for some more, I did this 3 times total about 7 hours and now my skill is 146. No I havent made any banded, files, skewers, or any of that other stuff, just the quest to 54 and this, I am so **** excited right now, cant wait to get off work and go home and do some more.
So does this sound like a reasonable plan to work up smithing, I love it and it works with my budget. Was considering spending a day or maybe two on my beast farming wos and mpg and rs to get tradeskill drops there and work on magnetic from 146, I love the huge dif in my skill and trivial, loosing the items means nothing cause its just pixels to me, but wowzers when you get that success at 54 on a 146 item it really does make Tradeskills so freaking awesome.
Starting tailoring next and I have a cheap plan for that too. I am figureing with the exception of jewelcraft I should be able to get the other 6 to 200 for a total cost of less then 5k. I have the technology, I can rebuild the system, I am keeping a detailed journal at home so i can summarize my total cost when I am done, down to the copper and i am also keeping track of how much people give me to work on this and how much I just give away.
Anywho sorry if I bored anyone or this is in the wrong spot. I am totally open to ideas and suggestions if anyone has a better option.
Camulus
Edit, o yeah i forgot to mention, the tool i made can be use with fish to make prepared fish and to get fish bones to make darts, fishing, tool made, fletching will go to 162, cost to me 0 plat. WOOT
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