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    Any tips on where to get these? i looked on the site, and the 3 places listed are the hole, PoN, and RCoD, but RCod is too hard to do solo for my class effectively, PoN same thing, So I been in the hole last few days outside of raid times, but haven't had a single one drop, can I get any help?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dolaorn
    Any tips on where to get these? i looked on the site, and the 3 places listed are the hole, PoN, and RCoD, but RCod is too hard to do solo for my class effectively, PoN same thing, So I been in the hole last few days outside of raid times, but haven't had a single one drop, can I get any help?
    Pile of Gravel drops off the gargoyles, dark blue to a level 70, at the bottom of The Hole. They are a rare drop though. In an hour of time, you might get none, one or two depending upon your kill rate.

    Baldary

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    • #3
      Yeh farming for this stinks. My friend was farming Yttrium ore for cultural smithing skill ups and he was farming a stack every hour. Since I am human, I have to farm the gravel for cultural smithing. I was down in the hole killing gargs 2 at a time for 3 hours and I got 1 pile.

      I tried PoN and I was still killing rather quickly and the drop rate was even worse.

      The disparity of drop rates of the different cultural components is very disheartening.

      Duvyen Deportee Torudor Nobuffsforjoo
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      • #4
        My GL has gotten me a couple stacks of gravel from RCoD. Since I've never been to the zone, I have no idea what camp(s) he's hunted at. But it seems he gets about 2-3 per hour. Still crappy compared to yttrium, but lots better than gravel drops in the Hole or PoN.

        Tat
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        • #5
          My GL has gotten me a couple stacks of gravel from RCoD. Since I've never been to the zone, I have no idea what camp(s) he's hunted at. But it seems he gets about 2-3 per hour. Still crappy compared to yttrium, but lots better than gravel drops in the Hole or PoN.

          I used to farm RCoD for named to finance my tskill habit, but I generally did a 6 cycle PH camp closer to the entrance of RCod, rather then venture in farther where I run into more see invis mobs (makes running to each PH a tad slower).

          I'm trying to remember all the 1.5 and 2.0 hits we did in RCoD, but I'm just drawing a blank here thinking about heavily populated Garg camps in RCoD. Anyone have a good location?

          Duvyen Deportee Torudor Nobuffsforjoo
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          • #6
            this is from a post i did some time back reguarding drop rates

            i got a highelf 345 blacksmith
            i got a barbarian 330 blacksmith
            brother has a dwarf 330 blacksmith

            we decide to make some lower level twinks and play them, later on these twinks reached the level to wear expert level armor , so we proceded to attempt to farm stuff......

            highelf expert = fungus sap stuff , it drops from various mobs in dulaks harbor, took me less then an hour to wipe the area and have enough stuff to make 2 suits of highelf expert armor,

            Barbarian / dwarven expert, best reports were twilight sea, so we cleared ele island, then went in and cleared the hidden valley, 3 days later, we had enough (just barely) for 1 suit each ( lava rocks for dorf stuff and chunk of condensed ice for barb stuff)


            in short, highelf drop rate is 20:1 compared to dwarven and barbarian for expert armor drop rates


            small bricks of yttrium vs pile of gravel , this also appears to be about a 20:1 difference in drop rate, farmed the yttrium near were the clicky shrink wand drops, got a stack in couple hours,

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Aetemius
              I'm trying to remember all the 1.5 and 2.0 hits we did in RCoD, but I'm just drawing a blank here thinking about heavily populated Garg camps in RCoD. Anyone have a good location?
              As far as I know there are no gargoyles in RCoD, but the golems can drop the Pile of Gravel. The best spot for golems in RCoD (there are 5 static golem spawns there) is the courtyard just below the bridgekeeper.


              Gorse

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              • #8
                Well I tried farming there last night - clearing that courtyard around 10 or 11 times and 1 pile of gravel, weeee !

                I also farmed the PoN gargs last night for a few hours. I was clearing about 15 at a time then waiting for repops (not long at all in PoN, like 10 mins?) and I got 2 piles on 10 clears. For the mathmatically challenged - that's around 150 mobs with 2 drops.

                So now I've tried all 3 locations and on average it seems that the drop rate is best in RCoD, but even that drop rate is abysmal at best.


                I am now ready to start tskilling with my whopping 5 piles I have collected in just over a week of farming a few hours every night. Teeeeerrriffic.

                Duvyen Deportee Torudor Nobuffsforjoo
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                • #9
                  Stoneworkers in the RCOD Sewers instances also drop gravel, thought I won't suggest that the drop rate is any better than the other locales. I can't recall if I ever got any gravel from stoneworkers in the catacombs instances.

                  Hint: Sewers and Catacombs instances vary in difficulty depending on the level of the mission requestor...


                  Mud

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Aetemius
                    I am now ready to start tskilling with my whopping 5 piles I have collected in just over a week of farming a few hours every night. Teeeeerrriffic.
                    While I feel your pain, the answer I came up with is that it basically doesn't matter. You can take shadowscream all the way to 267 (I'm almost there), and at that point, the DoN GM combines already give a max chance of success for 4 of the 7 pieces, with an 8% trophy, and no mastery AAs. The other 3 pieces hit max success rate in the upper 270s, so it's pretty close.

                    At that point, you can just do GM combines, which have a 10% bonus to skillups (compared to 5% for master). That's my plan.

                    The master skillup route (for those who have a viable route) really just makes it easier to skip shadowscream. But I have found it not to be that bad (shadowscream). It does take a while to farm everything, but all 3 drops required drop at a steady and predictable rate, so it never gets frustrating like waiting for rare drops that never seem to come.

                    Tat
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                    Snookims Whinzlow, 105 Enchanter
                    -- 300 Research
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                    • #11
                      I understand your very valid points about doing shadowscream then GM armor because of the 5% difference, but I think you are missing my points just a little bit.

                      1) I want to do Master Armor to 290. Simple as that, I hate shadowscream, and I'm sick and tired of farming zones that offer no exp for tskilling.

                      2) I know the skill-up difference is nice between Master and GM armor, but the price differential just makes that unreasonable in most cases.

                      3) My main point was the drop-rate disparity between DoN component drop rates between the races is insanely huge.

                      Duvyen Deportee Torudor Nobuffsforjoo
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                      • #12
                        Not missing your points at all. When I started smithing 4 weeks ago, the road map I laid out used DoN master armor instead of Shadowscream. It would be a much preferable path. My post re: shadowscream simply reflects the reality that piles of gravel are not attainable at ANY kind of a rate that supports skilling up (i.e. I need to make XX combines to get from 222 to 267). That number would be in the hundreds. I don't want to wait until next year to GM smithing. So while you get no XP while farming SS components, it doesn't take all that long to gather the materials, assuming a character that could farm gravel as well.

                        SS will take you high enough to make some of the GM components at max success rate, and very close to making the last few. And it can be done in short order. I've gone from 222 to 257 in two weeks, playing casual hours (1-2 hours/day).

                        Is the gravel drop rate insane? YES
                        Is it fair that others have better options? NO
                        Should DoN masters be a valid skillup route for all? YES
                        Is there anything I can do about it? NOPE

                        All my post was trying to point out is that, as long as the gravel route is broken, there is a viable alternative. I've played this game long enough to know that you either use the workarounds, or skip the content. Waiting for things to get fixed can sometimes make for a very long wait.

                        Tat
                        Tatanka WolfDancer, 105 Druid
                        -- 300x7 (2100 club), 7 maxed trophies | 200 Fishing
                        Snookims Whinzlow, 105 Enchanter
                        -- 300 Research
                        Knekt Thedots, 60 Shaman
                        -- 300 Alchemy, maxed trophy
                        Gneehigh Gnasty, 60 Rogue
                        -- 300 Poisoncrafting, maxed trophy

                        Inisfree, Tunare

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                        • #13
                          It's such a good thing that maddoc spent his time putting together the progression server versus fixing this...

                          I've just never understood how something can so obviously be broken for so long (2 expansions) and not get any attention.

                          But at least they made a progression server for a few people to play on. yay!

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                          • #14
                            Heh, yeah, I guess that's the latest "workaround"

                            Tat
                            Tatanka WolfDancer, 105 Druid
                            -- 300x7 (2100 club), 7 maxed trophies | 200 Fishing
                            Snookims Whinzlow, 105 Enchanter
                            -- 300 Research
                            Knekt Thedots, 60 Shaman
                            -- 300 Alchemy, maxed trophy
                            Gneehigh Gnasty, 60 Rogue
                            -- 300 Poisoncrafting, maxed trophy

                            Inisfree, Tunare

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                            • #15
                              Way back, when I learned the drop rate of Pile of Gravel, I determined that Human Master smithing was not the route for me to get to 300 skill. I went the sickle route since I could farm plat much easier than I could farm Piles of Gravel. While it is a bit costly, you can recoup some cash by selling sickles in Bazaar for Tribute. The side benefit is that my personal Tribute is constantly full.

                              Baldary

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