Smithing route to Fine Plate

[BuzWeaver]

This is my little route to Fine Plate. Since there isn’t a way to see just ‘old world’ recipes, I just plotted a route the best I could remember. I’m trying to do this in stages to keep my cost manageable and trivials realistic. Any suggestions or alternatives would be appreciated.

Metal Bits (18)

Tarnished Weapons (22)
Studs (35)

Skinning Knife (41)

Tool Box (51)

Large Lantern (68)

Diary Spoon (74)

Banded (90) Helm (106)

Large Banded Mail (115)

Ornate Chain Mail (116)

[Dutchy]

I do not believe we had the option to create dairy spoons when EQ was released.
On the website it shows the spoon is used in 6 different recipies: butter, cream, dragon mayonnaise, GM baking spoon, mixed egg, and mature cheese.
We only used to be able to get to 202 baking skill (with pixie powder cinnesticks) when EQ came out, and all of these items are used in 200+ trivial combines that came out around & after the luclin expansion.

Other than that I think your list is looking great =)

[BuzWeaver]

A friend mentioned the same thing about the diary spoon, I'lll see if I can't come up with something else or just skip that and go to Banded. I just remember back in the day there were huge gaps in trivals. Thanks for your input.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

Stat food (pixie cinnesticks) didn't go in until... Luclin?

Original EQ the max on baking was 162 making birthday cakes

[Dutchy]

Nah. It's been quite some years but from what I can remember: stat food wise luclin came with the "amazing" meals in those times. With the release of the earring of the solstice quest misty thicket picnics became available. Halas meat pies are also a luclin-release I believe.
Prior to luclin we alrdy had stat meals like beer-braised gator/wolf, muskie marinade's, etc. and velious came with the dragon steaks offering the first path above 202 skill and a couple of other stat foods like storm giant steaks.
I just remember foraging hours and hours to get those cinnesticks to get some skill ups after 162 skill because there was no other path up, if it was luclin I would have done patty melts
might have been with kunark though, thats when I started playing.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

I'm dead certain that cinnesticks went in with Stonebrunt. Whenever that was. I thought it was Luclin but I could be wrong.

I know for sure that 162 was the max until dragon steaks were added.

[Tiroon]

I would do Filleting Knife instead of Dairy Spoon.

For one metal bit more you get a product that stacks and can be sold over time for a small profit. Trivial is 2 higher than Dairy Spoon.

[Dutchy]

The filleting knife recipie didn't get released till the patch of May 8, 2002. (see the older baking guides on the site).

[Zacatac]

I posted this on another thread, but didn't really put in the "misc." parts.

Misc. stuff : 0-90
Banded armor: 90-115
Ornate chain: 116-162
Fine Plate: 163-188
Old Cultural smithing (non-BD): 190-242

I remember doing metal studs, boning, scalers, pot, and large lanterns. I think lockpicks (88 trivial) pehaps.

[Silvermink]

Is ornate chain the only Old School method above 115? At over 50pp per 2 rings it is not going to be very possible for me to do this. I'm not looking for easy but I'd like to actually get somewhere with my limited funds.

[Trebla]

Heck, old school didn't even have fine plate in the game. The recipe wasn't "fixed" until just before or just after Kunark was released. And you used to be able to skill up to 119 with something trivial like scalers...

But yeah, Ornate chain seems like the only viable bridge to fine plate... though you shouldn't be spending 50pp for 2 rings, the pieces of armor will still probably cost more to make than the current market will bear.

[Kilzen]

Thanks for the post.

I have an old print out at home of "KC's guide to smithing" - I'll try to find it and take a look at it to see what suggestions it offers. Back in 'the day' it was one of the better smithing guides if you were looking to skill up cheaply. With all the differances between then and today, I'm not sure how good it is now. I do like the above suggestions, beats the Steel Bonings I was doing, I suspect they aren't the best items for 21-38 or whatever skill level they are. I'm working lanterns now, so guess it don't matter a whole lot, lol

[Trebla]

I had very bad luck with lanterns. I did Scalers until 41 or so, tried lanterns and was losing a lot of money (at the time) because of the low resale value then dropped 4 stacks of metal bits into dairy spoons (which got me to mid 50s) then went straight into Banded. Even with fairly low success rate, selling the bracers and gorget for 3pp was profitable given the low cost of components (About 5gold per combine).

[Kilzen]

I'm having just that 'luck' with them too. I've never been a hardcore tradeskiller, but when I attempted smithing last time, I don't recall them being all that bad - but I guess there's a big differance with the 75pp I have in the bank now as opposed to thousands...

I'm only at 51 now, I may well finish up on scalers. Even though the lanterns sell for more - that row of 10 failures in a row last night was disheartening, even though I did gain about 3 skill points from those 10.

My goal is skill points, of course, but it still sucks when you see 'you lacked the skills...' like 10 times in a row, since that's pure PP loss.

[Kilzen]

Just noticed something too..
According to the data here, Small Pieces of Ore sell for about 5sp or so.

In halas, I'm standing right at the smithing vendor, yet the pieces of ore are 2GP each! That's a sizeable differance, did they change the price of these over the years or is something up in Halas?