Frozen Skill

[Aleena]

Even post patch there are bad spots. On average I make 1 pt every 19.3 combines with my monk up. However from 216 to 217 it took taken 138 combines (skewing the average just a little). So be prepared to hit hell levels in certain spots too.

Aleena

[B_Delacroix]

184 smithing half elf. I have a collection of parts for shadowscream. I was lucky in that it only took 40 combines for 183-184.

[Kellrin]

Re: ugh

Ugh...and I thought I was having it hard running through 40 or so combines to get a skillup in the mid 180s.

I am actually thinking of just going ahead and switching out of fine steel and into field plate (I'm a human). Sure, my failure rate will be greater, and my costs higher, but I am convinced I get more skillups the farther I am from trival...

There have been numerous posts and my own experience that you are more likely to get skill ups the closer to trivial you get because you get more skillups on success than on failure and you get more success the higher your skill is. ie do the fine plate to the bitter end.

[Quendi_Selli]

Actually that's not quite right, there have been lots of posts proposing either answer.

Personally I'm convinced you have a certain percent chance to skill up on each non-trivial combine. This would be similar to the way other skills work - such as foraging going up just as often when you forage something as when you don't. At first you stink and rarely forage anything but later you frequently get something when you forage - in both cases the chance to improve your skill was about the same based on the same rate of improvement.

So this means...

If you smith stuff close to trivial you will get lots of successes and thus most skill-ups will come on successes. If you smith stuff far from trivial you will get lots of failures and thus lots of skill-ups on failures.

- Quendi Selli
Rodcet Nife server

[Altanis Blazewielder]

As per the Great Skillup Survey (tm) you are nealy twice as likely to skill up on a success than a failure.
---Altanis Blazewielder

[Cavel]

OK here is what I do when I see a streak of 50+combines without a skill up:

1) Finish all Trivial combines that stack (Making old Cultural in this example)
a) enchanted Folded sheets of Mithrial
b) Enchanted Mithrial Rings
2) Go Exp'ing for a while, collect Morning dew and burn down MM for essence of moonlight.
3) log off for the night
4) come back the next day and attempt the remaining combines.

I have noticed that doing multiple attempts at one time seems to give me better skill ups, where as I will get streaky if I only do 1 or 2 at a time. Example 50 attempts to get one point when I did not skill after 1 or 2 combines vs 7 attempts to get 206 when I did all 7 in a row. Then again could just be the Darn RNG.

Cavel
205 High Elven Smith
Knights of Twilight
Tunare

[Kradlum]

My skill-up rate for Shadowscream has been 1 in 9 attempts from 188-196 (STR 255). Maybe try changing the combines you are doing to something else for a while to break your run of bad luck.

Of course, I'm expecting to get some really bad hell levels later on to balance the luck I've had so far.

[Cigarskunk]

Stuck at 191 baking with 140+ combines under my belt.