This post has 2 sections; 1) Data about LDoN Steel armor Tribute points values, and; 2) How I gained Trivial 194 - 199 over exactly 23 minutes of smithing - by trying an experiment.
----->>>>> This is NOT intended as a "this works all the time" type of post <<<<-----
This is data - and I request that others test it out and see if they get similar results.
Background: I am using my fellow Innoruuk server Blacksmiths guide, (Zeralenn Mancdaman) "The Economical Guide to Smithing, Edition 6.0. A wonderful guide, and the hard work she put into it shows. Thank you Zeralenn.
I had leveled from 189 to 193 in the past 3 days through several sessions, going through 220 combines total to gain those 4 points. Lots of plat was sunk in those days. Which makes the results I got today astounding. (I am truly hoping others who try Section 2 out as a test get similar results.)
I had raised my WIS up to 265, Str was only 189. I am a 62 Dwarven Paladin and have raised my Tradeskills up to get the 8th shawl (which I hope to have Tuesday night!!). I used the N Kaladim forge outside of Everhots to combine. I did NOT use a Geerlock. I have no AA's to raise any other Tradeskill above 200, although I am GM in JC 250 w/trophy.
So, i loaded up my bags (all 100% WR 10-slot bags) with padding, sheets, water and tempers, and started the combines.
SECTION 1
This is the data I received (via LOGGING the tradeins) about the variance in values for specific types (Calcified, Frosted, Sandblasted and Gothic) of the same piece of armor made when turned in for Tribute points. As you will see, the values vary and as such, may affect how you want to level skills or what you make to gain Tribute points. I made Gorgets until I trivialed out at 194. Once I got the 194 and then 195, the circumstances of when it happened prompted me to think of trying an experiment, which did result in me getting to 199 skill level 23 minutes later.
Here is the data:
[Sat May 01 17:38:31 2004] You say, 'Hail, Grasill Stoutale'
[Sat May 01 17:38:31 2004] Grasill Stoutale says 'Brell be blessed! Have ye come to [donate] some items or platinum? Now is the time to be payin' [tribute].'
[Sat May 01 17:38:38 2004] * Rithien has entered channel flagraiders:4
[Sat May 01 17:38:44 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 120 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Collar.'
[Sat May 01 17:38:49 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Collar as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:38:49 2004] You have received 120 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 17:38:50 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 83 favor for that Small Calcified Steel Collar.'
[Sat May 01 17:38:54 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Calcified Steel Collar as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:38:54 2004] You have received 83 favor for your tribute!
~~~ AND ~~~
[Sat May 01 17:57:35 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 548 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Boots.'
[Sat May 01 17:57:38 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Boots as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:57:38 2004] You have received 548 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 17:57:41 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 618 favor for that Small Sandblasted Steel Boots.'
[Sat May 01 17:57:43 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Sandblasted Steel Boots as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:57:43 2004] You have received 618 favor for your tribute!
~~~ And ~~~
[Sat May 01 18:11:25 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 547 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:27 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:27 2004] You have received 547 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 18:11:32 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 618 favor for that Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:34 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:34 2004] You have received 618 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 18:11:35 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 285 favor for that Small Frosted Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:37 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Frosted Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:37 2004] You have received 285 favor for your tribute!
Summary:
As can be seen, the trade in values of similar items (Collar/gorgets, then boots, then Vambraces) that are made by different tempers and thus make a different type (Calcified, Frosted, Sandblasted and Gothic) vary in value. This is probably true of other pieces of armor, and as such will likely change what you make to turn in for tribute.
SECTION 2
This section is dedicated to how I leveled skill points in 23 minutes. As mentioned above, when I combined and got skill 194, it was after having already tried 40+ combines of Calcified Collars, with no skill ups. I THEN tried 1 combine to make a Gothic collar (because I had seen the night before the difference in price and wanted the better value to turn in to record the value) and DING - Skill at 194. I then stopped and pondered, went to the bank to get 3 types of tempers in my bags. I then set up to combine as follows:
3 attempts at Small Gothic Steel Vambraces
~then~
3 attempts at Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces
~then~
3 attempts at Small Frosted Steel Vambraces
~then - Rinse Repeat~
The purpose was to see the values of tradeins, but also to see if changing from one type to another after only a few combines might net Skill ups more frequently. Sure - maybe there have been trials like this before. Maybe I was on a roll. I won't know until after others try and respond to this.
The results were - astounding to me.
DATA:
First - the 194-195 success combines (Sandblasted Collar and Gothic & Sandblasted Boots)
[Sat May 01 17:46:35 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:47:11 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (194)
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar!
[Sat May 01 17:48:12 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:48:34 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:48:42 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:48:48 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:49:00 2004] You can no longer advance your skill from making this item.
[Sat May 01 17:49:00 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:51:27 2004] Tortuk Everhot tells you, 'That'll be 12 platinum 5 gold 9 silver 9 copper for the Small Plate Boot Mold.'
[Sat May 01 17:51:29 2004] You give 12 platinum 5 gold 9 silver 9 copper to Tortuk Everhot.
[Sat May 01 17:52:23 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (195)
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots!
[Sat May 01 17:53:27 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:53:27 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots!
[Sat May 01 17:53:38 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:53:56 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:53:59 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:02 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:05 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:54:20 2004] Recipe Small Calcified Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:30 2004] Recipe Small Deep Cavern Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:35 2004] Recipe Small Deep Cavern Steel Visor removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:38 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:41 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Bracer removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:43 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:45 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Visor removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:55:05 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:55:10 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:12 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:15 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:18 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:21 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:24 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:26 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:30 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (196)
[Sat May 01 17:55:30 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
~~~ I then had to trade in (see data above) and get more molds to continue. I switched to making Vambraces.
[Sat May 01 18:06:30 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:07:08 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:07:08 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Frosted Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:07:40 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:07:40 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:08:03 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:08:03 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Gothic Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:08:10 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:08:30 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:08:57 2004] Recipe Small Frosted Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:08:59 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:01 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:03 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:09:07 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:09 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:15 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:09:19 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (197)
[Sat May 01 18:09:19 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:24 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:27 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:30 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You lacked the skills to fashion the items together.
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (198)
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create an alternate product.
[Sat May 01 18:09:38 2004] You lacked the skills to fashion the items together.
[Sat May 01 18:09:38 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create an alternate product.
[Sat May 01 18:09:43 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:47 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (199)
[Sat May 01 18:09:47 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:51 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:54 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:57 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:01 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:04 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:06 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:10 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:13 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:15 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:19 2004] Sorry, but you don't have everything you need for this recipe in your general inventory.
[Sat May 01 18:10:19 2004] You are missing a Small Plate Vambrace Mold.
[Sat May 01 18:10:35 2004] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
END DATA
Okay - by combining 3 of one type (Gothic) then switching to combine 3 of another type (Sandblasted) and then switching to another type (Frosted) i netted the last 3 skill ups rapidly.
---------------------------------
What I ask the community here to do is, if possible, test this yourselves and see if there is a similar effect in netting skill ups. The obvious point is that should it happen with others and often, then variety in types of items made per skill up session may net a more cost effective way of getting skill, and thus saving many a great deal of plat sunk into Smithing.
Also, more data needs to be collected to determine the trade in values for LDoN plate to the Tribute masters. This data also has obvious benefits.
Thank you all for this site and all the data here that has helped me through my shawls and Tradeskills.
Rumblebore Adamant
92 Paladin, Mystic Legions, Innoruuk Server.
----->>>>> This is NOT intended as a "this works all the time" type of post <<<<-----
This is data - and I request that others test it out and see if they get similar results.
Background: I am using my fellow Innoruuk server Blacksmiths guide, (Zeralenn Mancdaman) "The Economical Guide to Smithing, Edition 6.0. A wonderful guide, and the hard work she put into it shows. Thank you Zeralenn.
I had leveled from 189 to 193 in the past 3 days through several sessions, going through 220 combines total to gain those 4 points. Lots of plat was sunk in those days. Which makes the results I got today astounding. (I am truly hoping others who try Section 2 out as a test get similar results.)
I had raised my WIS up to 265, Str was only 189. I am a 62 Dwarven Paladin and have raised my Tradeskills up to get the 8th shawl (which I hope to have Tuesday night!!). I used the N Kaladim forge outside of Everhots to combine. I did NOT use a Geerlock. I have no AA's to raise any other Tradeskill above 200, although I am GM in JC 250 w/trophy.
So, i loaded up my bags (all 100% WR 10-slot bags) with padding, sheets, water and tempers, and started the combines.
SECTION 1
This is the data I received (via LOGGING the tradeins) about the variance in values for specific types (Calcified, Frosted, Sandblasted and Gothic) of the same piece of armor made when turned in for Tribute points. As you will see, the values vary and as such, may affect how you want to level skills or what you make to gain Tribute points. I made Gorgets until I trivialed out at 194. Once I got the 194 and then 195, the circumstances of when it happened prompted me to think of trying an experiment, which did result in me getting to 199 skill level 23 minutes later.
Here is the data:
[Sat May 01 17:38:31 2004] You say, 'Hail, Grasill Stoutale'
[Sat May 01 17:38:31 2004] Grasill Stoutale says 'Brell be blessed! Have ye come to [donate] some items or platinum? Now is the time to be payin' [tribute].'
[Sat May 01 17:38:38 2004] * Rithien has entered channel flagraiders:4
[Sat May 01 17:38:44 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 120 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Collar.'
[Sat May 01 17:38:49 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Collar as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:38:49 2004] You have received 120 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 17:38:50 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 83 favor for that Small Calcified Steel Collar.'
[Sat May 01 17:38:54 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Calcified Steel Collar as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:38:54 2004] You have received 83 favor for your tribute!
~~~ AND ~~~
[Sat May 01 17:57:35 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 548 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Boots.'
[Sat May 01 17:57:38 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Boots as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:57:38 2004] You have received 548 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 17:57:41 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 618 favor for that Small Sandblasted Steel Boots.'
[Sat May 01 17:57:43 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Sandblasted Steel Boots as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 17:57:43 2004] You have received 618 favor for your tribute!
~~~ And ~~~
[Sat May 01 18:11:25 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 547 favor for that Small Gothic Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:27 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Gothic Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:27 2004] You have received 547 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 18:11:32 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 618 favor for that Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:34 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:34 2004] You have received 618 favor for your tribute!
[Sat May 01 18:11:35 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'A fine donation! You'll receive 285 favor for that Small Frosted Steel Vambraces.'
[Sat May 01 18:11:37 2004] Grasill Stoutale tells you, 'We graciously accept your Small Frosted Steel Vambraces as tribute, thank you!'
[Sat May 01 18:11:37 2004] You have received 285 favor for your tribute!
Summary:
As can be seen, the trade in values of similar items (Collar/gorgets, then boots, then Vambraces) that are made by different tempers and thus make a different type (Calcified, Frosted, Sandblasted and Gothic) vary in value. This is probably true of other pieces of armor, and as such will likely change what you make to turn in for tribute.
SECTION 2
This section is dedicated to how I leveled skill points in 23 minutes. As mentioned above, when I combined and got skill 194, it was after having already tried 40+ combines of Calcified Collars, with no skill ups. I THEN tried 1 combine to make a Gothic collar (because I had seen the night before the difference in price and wanted the better value to turn in to record the value) and DING - Skill at 194. I then stopped and pondered, went to the bank to get 3 types of tempers in my bags. I then set up to combine as follows:
3 attempts at Small Gothic Steel Vambraces
~then~
3 attempts at Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces
~then~
3 attempts at Small Frosted Steel Vambraces
~then - Rinse Repeat~
The purpose was to see the values of tradeins, but also to see if changing from one type to another after only a few combines might net Skill ups more frequently. Sure - maybe there have been trials like this before. Maybe I was on a roll. I won't know until after others try and respond to this.
The results were - astounding to me.
DATA:
First - the 194-195 success combines (Sandblasted Collar and Gothic & Sandblasted Boots)
[Sat May 01 17:46:35 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:47:11 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (194)
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:47:52 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar!
[Sat May 01 17:48:12 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:48:34 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:48:42 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:48:48 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:49:00 2004] You can no longer advance your skill from making this item.
[Sat May 01 17:49:00 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:51:27 2004] Tortuk Everhot tells you, 'That'll be 12 platinum 5 gold 9 silver 9 copper for the Small Plate Boot Mold.'
[Sat May 01 17:51:29 2004] You give 12 platinum 5 gold 9 silver 9 copper to Tortuk Everhot.
[Sat May 01 17:52:23 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (195)
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:52:51 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots!
[Sat May 01 17:53:27 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:53:27 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots!
[Sat May 01 17:53:38 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:53:56 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:53:59 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:02 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:05 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:54:20 2004] Recipe Small Calcified Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:30 2004] Recipe Small Deep Cavern Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:35 2004] Recipe Small Deep Cavern Steel Visor removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:38 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:41 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Bracer removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:43 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Collar removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:54:45 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Visor removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 17:55:05 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 17:55:10 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:12 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:15 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:18 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:21 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:24 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:26 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 17:55:30 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (196)
[Sat May 01 17:55:30 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
~~~ I then had to trade in (see data above) and get more molds to continue. I switched to making Vambraces.
[Sat May 01 18:06:30 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:07:08 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:07:08 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Frosted Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:07:40 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:07:40 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:08:03 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:08:03 2004] You have learned the recipe Small Gothic Steel Vambraces!
[Sat May 01 18:08:10 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:08:30 2004] Requesting matching recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:08:57 2004] Recipe Small Frosted Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:08:59 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:01 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Vambraces has been added to your favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:03 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:09:07 2004] Recipe Small Gothic Steel Boots removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:09 2004] Recipe Small Sandblasted Steel Boots removed from favorites.
[Sat May 01 18:09:15 2004] Requesting favorite recipes...
[Sat May 01 18:09:19 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (197)
[Sat May 01 18:09:19 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:24 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:27 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:30 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You lacked the skills to fashion the items together.
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (198)
[Sat May 01 18:09:33 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create an alternate product.
[Sat May 01 18:09:38 2004] You lacked the skills to fashion the items together.
[Sat May 01 18:09:38 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create an alternate product.
[Sat May 01 18:09:43 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:47 2004] You have become better at Blacksmithing! (199)
[Sat May 01 18:09:47 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:51 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:54 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:09:57 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:01 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:04 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:06 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:10 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:13 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:15 2004] You have fashioned the items together to create something new!
[Sat May 01 18:10:19 2004] Sorry, but you don't have everything you need for this recipe in your general inventory.
[Sat May 01 18:10:19 2004] You are missing a Small Plate Vambrace Mold.
[Sat May 01 18:10:35 2004] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
END DATA
Okay - by combining 3 of one type (Gothic) then switching to combine 3 of another type (Sandblasted) and then switching to another type (Frosted) i netted the last 3 skill ups rapidly.
---------------------------------
What I ask the community here to do is, if possible, test this yourselves and see if there is a similar effect in netting skill ups. The obvious point is that should it happen with others and often, then variety in types of items made per skill up session may net a more cost effective way of getting skill, and thus saving many a great deal of plat sunk into Smithing.
Also, more data needs to be collected to determine the trade in values for LDoN plate to the Tribute masters. This data also has obvious benefits.
Thank you all for this site and all the data here that has helped me through my shawls and Tradeskills.
Rumblebore Adamant
92 Paladin, Mystic Legions, Innoruuk Server.