Ethereal Metal rings

[Diledryten]

I have been working to skill up with Ethereal metal rings from 210 to 212, however I have realized on some occasions that I have not put my geerlok on me for the attempt and I have still been able to make it with an unmodified 211 smithing.

It seems like the skill requirement may have been changed down for 220. Can anyone confirm as well or give a guess as to what the skill required to attempt is?

This may help other smiths if you can start the combine earlier in your progression.

[Reddoak]

I just tried this at 208 unmodified smithing and got the "You are
too inexperienced in your craft to even consider attempting this
combination" message.

If what you're saying's true, they may have moved the required
minimum skill downward a few steps, maybe to 210 skill, but
that's it. I wont believe it though until someone else can confrim it.

[Eleon]

I can confirm this as well. I was doing 210 to 212, and made a few but got no skill ups. went around ended up being called to a raid, and then back back after raid and did a few more form the UI, after I got a skillup I noticed I still had my epic in hand and not the gearlock.

Now this might mean you can use abilitiy of the UI without the "required" skill, once you know it.

or

This means the trivial changed a little bit.

I am willing to bet it is a feature of the new UI.

-Snowspirit

[ceod]

This does in fact work. I purchaced a Gridle to get a +10% skill so I could skill up on EE Rings and save more money that I spent on buying the Girdle.

Once I made the first one, and added it to the UI list, I could make it without needing to wear the girdle.

Now of course since I'm on FV I can buy NO DROP items like the girdle. For those of you who are also there, you might want to see if you can borrow someone's +10% item at 200 or someone's +15% item at 192, and make a small run of EE Rings untill you suceed at one. You can get away without buying one.

(Of course since I'm on FV I can also get a Mark of Karana, and skill up to 188. Which I have done.)

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Ceod Spiritstone. Shaman. Firiona Vie
Smithing: 201
Brewing: 248
Alchemy: 179
Baking: 191
Pottery: 188

[KyrosKrane]

Honestly, this sounds like a bug to me. The UI is apparently not checking for required skill on combines if the recipe is already in your list, which doesn't sound right.

Mebbe we should ping the devs and ask them to check this?

[ceod]

Honestly, this sounds like a bug to me. The UI is apparently not checking for required skill on combines if the recipe is already in your list, which doesn't sound right.

Mebbe we should ping the devs and ask them to check this?

Probably is. Though it's also possible that the required skill level for combines is only checked to "Learn" the combine then thereafter you are assumed to know how to make it. In the same way that you can not search for many combines until you have made it at least once. Of course if it is actually a bug, it's a minor one. *Shrug* I'd be a good idea to know one way or the other.

[Aalar]

If it's a bug it isn't worth fixing. And it sounds like a minor bug.

If one is able to learn the skill than one must have been at the correct skill level (used a geerlok or other modifying device) for the first attempt. My guess is the new UI does not check for correct skill level once it is added to the recipe list.

Aalar

[Tudani]

except for auto learn recipes with required skill levels.

[AbsorEQ]

The required level on that recipe did not change.

This appears to be a bug. Obviously if there is a minimum skill required, just knowing the recipe shouldn't allow you to bypass that requirement. Someone is looking into it.

A

[Tudani]

It seems to be a problem with all learned recipes, most noticably with some of the epic combines that we've been hearing have required skill levels but you can do them with less if you use the UI to do it.

[ceod]

It seems to be a problem with all learned recipes, most noticably with some of the epic combines that we've been hearing have required skill levels but you can do them with less if you use the UI to do it.

If that's the case then it's not a minor bug then. If I understand what you are saying correctly: If the combine has a minimum skill level, but you can search it in the UI without having to make it once to "learn" it, but you can still do the combine by virtue of the UI, then it has nothing to do with "learning" the recipe and should definitely be fixed.

or are you saying that it only works on learned recipes?

Are there any combines that have a minimum skill requirement that can be searched and do not require that they be "learned"?