Is Mith Marr imbued field plate FRG wearable?

[Battlemarch]

Topic says it all. Is old Human Freeport cultural imbued (Mith Marr) Field Plate wearable by FRG?

Thanks,

Kilelen

[Battlemarch]

question answered: YES

Sad that I reply to my own post. I got some diamonds and made mith marr imbued field plate. Yes, wearable by Frogs.

Kilelen

[Kaysha Soulsinger]

Kilelen, you should have got a hold of me before, I still have some Imbued Field Plate (MM) on my mule, could have checked for you then. But, I didn't do so out of myself, since I was working on "A_Frog_of_my_own_362.135.568" (tm) :P as well as managing my bankspace.

[Shaman Arriana]

This is just lazy. Humans have enough of a market as it is without outfitting every warrior/paladin froglok twink.

[Lling]

For warriors, the dwarves UNIMBUED works just fine.

At least they gave something to a race in addition to humans.

[Boleslav]

Allowing other races unimbued stuff to fit froggies is a bone, but not a great bone. Some of the Enchanted Dwarven Plate pieces might be attractive to a Froglok Warrior. Not sure about other culturals compared to the Mith Marr alternatives. There will be lots and lots of Mith Marr froggies who will be looking for imbued goodies.

There is no other way to look at this except as an increase in the market share for Human smiths. Some froggies will buy unimbued stuff if it is cheap, but the real money to be made will go to Human smiths. This was the easiest way to code things, and therefore predictable. I don't have a huge problem with this, but don't pretend it isn't what it is…

Boleslav Forgehammer
Paladin of Brell in his 60th Campaign
E'ci - Destiny Awaits

[kiztent]

Allowing other races unimbued stuff to fit froggies is a bone, but not a great bone. Some of the Enchanted Dwarven Plate pieces might be attractive to a Froglok Warrior. Not sure about other culturals compared to the Mith Marr alternatives. There will be lots and lots of Mith Marr froggies who will be looking for imbued goodies.

Don't even try this Boleslav. Let's compare shall we...

http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_stats_human_freeport.htm
Visor AC 6, wt 1.7; size small
Collar AC 8, wt 4.2; size small
girdle AC 9, wt 4.2; size small
Bracer AC 10, wt 4.2; size small
Boots AC 12, wt 7.0; size medium
Pauldron AC 11, wt 4.8; size small
Vambraces AC 13, wt 6.8; size small
Gauntlets AC 12, wt 5.2; size small
Cloak AC 12, wt 6; size large
Helm AC 13, wt 4.8; size small
Greaves AC 16, wt 8.0; size large
Breastplate AC 24, wt 10.5; size large

Mith Marr imbue adds 2 wis and 4 str (and a giant 2 cha bonus on arms, legs, BP and cloak).

http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_stats_dwarven.htm
Enchanted Dwarf plate:
visor AC 8, STA 4, sv fire 1, sv magic 4, wt 2.0, size small
collar AC 10, STR 4, STA 6, sv vs fire 1, sv vs magic 4, wt 4.5, size small
girdle AC 10, STR 4, STA 6, sv magic 3, sv fire 2, wt 4.5, size small
bracers AC 13, STR 4, STA 4, sv fire 1, wt 4.5, size small
cloak AC 11, STR 6, STA 6, sv fire 3, sv magic 5, wt 4.1, size small
pauldron AC 12, STR 4, STA 4, sv fire 4, sv magic 2, wt 5.0, size small
gauntlets AC 15, STR 4, STA 4, sv fire 4, sv magic 4, wt 5.5, size small
boots AC 15, STR 8, STA 8, sv fire 2, sv magic 4, wt 7.5, size medium
vambraces AC 16, STR 5, STA 6, sv fire 4, sv magic 2, wt 7.0, size small
helm AC 16, STR 4, STA 4, sv fire 4, sv magic 5, wt 5.0, size small
greaves AC 20, STR 8, STA 8, sv fire 4, sv magic 2, wt 8.5, size large
breastplate AC 30, STR 8, STA 10, sv fire 5, wt 11.5, size large

With the exception of the cloak Dwarf plate has more AC, and I'm not even going to discuss how much better the stats are.

For BD style imbued, maybe. For old style imbued (being discussed here), no. Human imbued cultural is a JOKE compared to enchanted dwarf - unless you had a paladin that wanted WIS over STA.

[Sinuuyanea Nocturne]

Have we forgotten that Vah Shir <b>still</b> cant wear any cultural, blue diamond or otherwise?

[Araon]

In theory this should be good news to us Mith Marr cleric smiths capable of making and still skilling up on imbued field plate. That's what I thought when I first heard Frogloks would be added to the game.

But the diamonds alone cost 200pp each on average. Add in all your other costs and the imbued stuff just isn't economic compared to all the other sorts of armour out there.

No harm in trying to sell some I suppose but not getting my hopes up.

[Boleslav]

Good point Kiztent. I was focusing on future BD cultural sales and not the old school stuff.

Boleslav

[TheRealDuuece]

re frogs

Basically imo this is good.

Human smiths were really not even close in demand to elves and dwarves. Quite honestly even tho this is nice now...how many people will be playing frogs to a level where they will want BD stuff and how many people will keep making frogs.

Before frogs THERE WAS NO MARKET for imbued human smith stuff. There is just too much drop armor out there allot cheaper than what smiths can afford to make imbued at. It took me almost 3 months to sell a RZ imbued BP for 375pp. No one has touched my Rodcet Nife BP at 375pp over that time. I AM NOT gonna make a Mith Marr bp available for that cost. I can get 200pp for the diamond alone.

Human imbued IS CRAP. Letting frogs wear it was actually needed imo.

This is nice now but will die down greatly in the future and Elves and Dwarves will STILL be outselling humans 2-1 easily.

[Eidolon Faer]

I can also confirm that the old High Elf Cultural has been made Froglok wearable.

Enchanted Elven Chainmail for Frog Wizards, and the Enchanted Koada'Dal Mithril Platemail for Frog Clerics and Shamen are quite usable.

[Kethaniel]

re

Eidolon, are you saying the shamans can wear the plate version or the chain version? Sounds to me like you were saying plate version.. I haven't checked myself but shamans have never been able to wear plate armor before, and other chain classes (rangers who follow tuare as an example) cannot wear the plate. I'm not complaining if they can wear it, just seems odd.

Kethaniel

[lowkey]

Anyone know if the seafarer's armor from Freeport is imbuable or not?

[Sinuuyanea Nocturne]

Seafarer's Ringmail recipe is pretty clear; if it was imbuable, it would have said so when it was first posted.