BD Cultural - 230+

[Kanstorm]

Hi Guys

I'm looking to smith Underfoot Vambracers and Greaves, which are in the Dwarven BD cultural range.

I'm wondering what success rate smiths get ( not just dwarven ) on making their BD cultural with a raw skill around 230 and so Gerrlok to 240s.

I did try the bracers, with geerlok, 4x at raw skill 210 and 2x at raw skill 216 in which all 6 attempts failed.

Feedback from grand masters would also be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Arghargh]

At 250, I get about a %50 success rate on Ogre cultural armor. You can expect about 1% drop in success for every skill point below 250.

Arghargh Grumble, Darkblood
64 Ogre Shaman of Rallos Zek

200 Alchemy
200 Baking
250 Blacksmithing
250 Brewing
200 Fishing
200 Fletching
200 Jewelry
200 Pottery
170 Tailoring

[TheCraftyBard]

That sounds about right. I went nuts today and tried making 3 full mithril bracers at skill 197... just hoping. Of course, I got 3 failures, but I DID skill up to 198.

The scary part is, 3 combines' worth of materials per skill point sounds pretty nice.

[Gruffun]

ogre culteral

I finally got to my starting skill for culteral. i wanted 230 +
so started making them at 231.

attempts/success.
1/1 vambrace
1/1 legs
2/2 bracers.
that was all the compents I had. 100% success rate. WOOTS!!!!!

next day more supplies.
1/1 helm
0/1 BP
0/2 boots
2/2 bracers
1/1 vambrace
1/1 legs
out of components
5/8 rate. 62% I am doing lucky.!!!

back to farming velium and buying bd.
Every peice I am making is for myself and a Troll sk in my guild.
still need helm, pauldron, 2 boots, 2 BP, gloves, collar, visor.
Then there will be some very happy bad SK a killing tings.

[Kanstorm]

feedback

Thanks for the feedback.

For the record, I've done various cultural combines since 180s onwards. Enchanted Brellium, and then Imbued & Enchanted Brellium. Made a couple dozen pieces over the time and never yet saw a skill up on cultural.

Alas, never kept track of the success rates, but will say I was "confident" in high 190s that my attempts would work more often than fail. That was on items this site has posted 235 triv.

Back to the point, I'd like to hear more from folks.

With the above in mind, I take it at skill 230, going armed with enough for 6 combines I'm on good odds of walking away with a pair of vambraces and greaves.

If I fall under a lucky star [ /nod Gruffun ], I may make extras.

The one thing that does concern me is there are two different combines in dwarven cultural.

The difference between Brellium Platemail and Underfoot Platemail is one Imbued Ruby.

From the trivials we can see of the earlier cultural, enchanted = 202, imbued >224 and the Enchanted & Imbued > 236.

Do any of the other cultures have similar patterns? As we are blind on the over 250s trivials I'm wondering what the odds are on making Brellium Platemail compared to Underfoot Platemail.

The difference the imbued ruby makes on the end product:

Brellium Platemail Greaves
AC: 40 HP: +40 MANA: +40

Underfoot Platemail Greaves
AC: 40 STR: +10 WIS: +5 HP: +40 MANA: +40


Brellium Platemail Vambraces
AC: 26 HP: +30 MANA: +30

Underfoot Platemail Vambraces
AC: 26 WIS: +5 HP: +30 MANA: +30

At this time, i am wearing:

Dwarven Plate Greaves
AC: 20 STR: +8 STA: +8 WIS: +4 SV FIRE: +4 SV MAGIC: +2

Dwarven Plate Vambraces
AC: 16 STR: +5 STA: +6 WIS: +4 SV FIRE: +4 SV MAGIC: +2


Your thoughts and suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks.

[Dunthor Warsmith]

I've failed a lot more on Brellium plate than I have on Underfoot plate. I've personally been assuming that they had the same trivial, and that I've just had poor luck with the Brellium since the sample size is small (I've done much more Underfoot than Brellium).

[Gruffun]

more Ogre

last nights attempts...

success/ attempts
2/2 fulvous darkscale boots
1/2 Gauntlets
1/1 " helm
2/2 Breastplate
0/1 pauldron

I would feign but I am bounceing from happiness.
Have you ever seen an Ogre SK bouncing from happiness, it it not be from killin things?

have to make 1 guantlet, 1 visor, 1 pauldron, 1collar, 1 belt still to make. then it is open for business.

[Kanstorm]

Last night, I tried...

0/3 Underfoot Bracers
1/1 Brellium Vambracers
0/2 Brellium Greaves

Was happy to see the Vambracers, but 6 makes and no skill ups ( again ) with cultural.

I was wondering if I had an unlucky run, but again need community feedback on that.

So, think I'll see what i can do about skill ups before i go for another run.

Respects and congratulations on your successes Gruffun, what is your current raw skill please?

[Gruffun]

current

str 255

skill is 232. made 1 point on second set from 2 days ago.

gearlok 5% adds to that.

I have only had the 1 skill point from 21 attempts. but it was on culteral.
I plan on making some cutting scyths for money and skill ups along with the culterals

[Gruffun]

last night from an ogre

1/1 collar
1/1 visor
1/1 gauntlet
1/1 pauldron
0/1 belt

4/5 success. I think there has been a meteor shower.

skillups (2) new skill 234.

[Ndaara]

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/upload/...threadid=10944

i posted my data through skill 237 on this thread already. i now have data through 250 skill. if you're interested in seeing that as well, i'd be happy to post it too. all skill points listed are raw skill, and i always used a geerlok.

this is all the smithing i did, acrylia, blue diamond stuff, mistletoe sickles, whatever. i'm a high elf magician.

hope this helps!

EDIT: i always had my INT maxed for whatever level i was... i went from level 60-64 over the course of skilling up and i did not keep track of my intelligence, only know i made sure it was max along with my trusty geerlok =)

[Talbot]

I must be getting lucky. I tried my first BD at 220 skill + 5% Geerlock and have had the following luck.

2/2 Bracers
1/2 Helm 1 skill up
1/2 Vambraces

4/6...not that bad really, though I am thinking I will hold off and collect more components before I try some more.

I am a fairly low level character (46 Dwarf Cleric), and have had the hardest time lately getting some of the sub-combine parts. Blue Diamonds are rare to stumble upon in the bazaar on Stromm.
I tried the Hollowshade farming to gain some more skill, and I've discovered 46th level clerics are not the best farmers!!

[Ndaara]

i started BD cultural at 213 skill and had reasonable enough success that I pretty much stopped doing old cultural at that time.

[StrommKlaatu]

I made a stab at Full Mithril Boots at skill 216 w/ geerlock.

2/4

Level 37 Cleric
STR ~ 100 (Was hitting myself with Frenzied STR)
WIS 210

The success/failure rate is prompting me to attempt a few more combines, will post the results when completed.

[Bennan]

My experience has been...
At skill 230 I enjoyed great success making a set of Brellium, something like 17 attempts to make 12 items.

At skill 232 I set out to make a full set of Underfoot, I went around 33 attempts to make 11 items. I still have 2 pieces to go.

Maybe I will find that since I am up to 242 skill now, that I will enjoy a more consistent success rate (50% would be nice)....