Unsolved "Straight Forward" DNCs

[Elfdruidess]

Consolidating Unsolved "Straight Forward" DNCs from other threads into here, since the other threads are getting messy to read by now.

Note - These are all DNC recipes. What are listed are what the recipes should be "logically".

Submitted by Strommmm:

Spell: Shield of the Crystalwing Rk. II

Rough Paper
Quill of the Arcanist
Invigorating Thickener
Ink Additive of the Nameless
Ink of Tunare
Ink of the Tribunal
Ink of Druzzil Ro

Death Rune <-- solved, see Post # 6 below

Fine Runic Vellum
Quill of the Arch Lich
Conjuring Thickener
Luclin's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain

[Elfdruidess]

Submitted by Elfdruidess:

Spear of Ro (70 Mage, PoR) submitted to Database Forum (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/showthread.php?t=32605) as:

Spear of Ro (70 Mage, PoR)

Quill of the Arch Convoker
Ro's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain
Arcane Thickener
Fine Runic Vellum


Star Strike (70 Mage, OoW) shows the same recipe in the TS UI:

Quill of the Arch Convoker
Ro's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain
Arcane Thickener
Fine Runic Vellum

[Elfdruidess]

Grave Pact (70 Necro, PoR)

Quill of the Arch Lich
Fine Runic Vellum
Ink Additive of the Nameless
Invigorating Thickener
Ink of Pain
Ink of Prexus
Ink of the Eagle
Chronal Resonance Dust

Grave Pact is identical to Dark Possession (70 Necro, OoW). So should simply be Dark Possession + Chronal Resonance Dust. But it's DNC atm.

Note - Dark Possession's recipe has not changed in the TS UI.

[Elfdruidess]

Nectar of Pain (70 Shaman, PoR)

Quill of the Prophet
Fine Runic Vellum
Extending Thickener
Saryrn's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain
Ink of Saryrn
Chronal Resonance Dust

Nectar of Pain is identical to Blood of Yoppa (70 Shaman, OoW). So should simply be Blood of Yoppa + Chronal Resonance Dust. But it's DNC atm.

For argument's sake, Nectar of Pain is the Shaman's equivalent of Corath Venom (69 Necro, PoR). Corath Venom combines standardly because there is no level clash (the PoR spell being lvl 69 vs the OoW spell being lvl 70). Thus, the only variant for Nectar of Pain should be how the recipe clash is being dealt with. If not with Chronal Resonance Dust, then what?

Note - Blood of Yoppa's recipe has not changed in the TS UI.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Unfortunately I am off for a week, (and Friday was Design Lock anyway) so may be a while on these.

But keep them up.

[Elfdruidess]

I found Death Rune!

Death Rune (lvl 70 Necro, PoR Aura)
Quill of the Arch Lich
Fine Runic Vellum
Arcane Thickener
Luclin's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain

Don't ask :P.

(1) I think the Thickener should either be Conjuring to abide by PoR Aura rules for Wiz and Sha. Or at least be Extending since it's a DoT and not a DD.

(2) There should be 2 Inks of Pain since there are two lines of dmg.

[Elfdruidess]

Following the same logic, the following combines:

Dark Rune (lvl 55 Necro, PoR Aura)
Quill of the Arch Lich
Fine Runic Spell Scroll
Arcane Thickener
Luclin's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain

Again:

(1) I think the Thickener should either be Conjuring to abide by PoR Aura rules for Wiz and Sha. Or at least be Extending since it's a DoT and not a DD.

(2) There should be 2 Inks of Pain since there are two lines of dmg.

[YthanEQ]

Rathe's Strength (Magician, level 70)
Working Recipe:

Fine Runic Vellum x 1
Ink Additive of the Nameless x 1
Ink of Alacrity x 1
Talisman Thickener x1
Quill of the Arch Convoker x 1

This is the PoR pet aura buff that gives an all skills damage modifier, not attack haste. I think it should use Ink of Zek instead of Ink of Alacrity. Compare it, for example, to:

Lion's Strength (Druid, level 67)
Ink Additive of the Nameless x 1
Ink of Zek x 1
Invigorating Thickener x 1
Quill of the Storm Warden x 1
Vellum x 1

[Beldhyr]

Spirit of the Stoic One Rk. II

Quill of the Prophet
Rough Paper
Soothing Thickener
Ink Additive of the Nameless
Ink of Tunare

Also attempted EVERY OTHER thickener, just to be sure.
Attempted the above recipe with 2x Tunare.
Attempted the above recipe with Luclin's Ink Additive in place of Nameless.
Attempted the above recipe with Paper in place of Rough Paper.
Attempted the above recipe with Fine Paper, which yields Halcyon Breeze Rk. II...then moved on.

[Alasala]

Blacktalon Bite Rk. II

Blacktalon Bite Rk. II

This appears to be identical in Spell makeup to Inruku's Bite which is

1 x Bertoxxulous' Ink Additive
1 x Consuming Thickener
1 x Ink of Pain
1 x Ink of Prexus
1 x Ink of Tunare
1 x Quill of the Dread Lord
1 x Vellum

Lucy data is identical to Blacktalon bite, so a quick change to the appropriate Rough Paper, but DNC.

[Beldhyr]

Ancestral Bargain Rk. II

Fine Paper (73)
Quill of the Prophet (Shaman)
Ink Additive of the Nameless (Unresistable)
Consuming Thickener (Conversion)
Ink of Pain (Damages)
Ink of Prexus (Restores Mana)

Direct correlation to Cannibalize line, compared this recipe to the canni at level 58.

NOTE - Found the recipe on Allakhazam's by accident, it uses Invigorating Thickener. This should probably be changed.

[Beldhyr]

Elemental Symbiosis Rk. II

Recipe should be the same (with exception of the paper) as Elemental Siphon and Elemental Simulacrum. However, it's DNC.

Quill of the Arch Convoker
Fine Runic Paper
Ink Additive of the Nameless
Consuming Thickener
Ink of Prexus
Ink of Pain

[Beldhyr]

Nectar of Pain (70 Shaman, PoR)

Quill of the Prophet
Fine Runic Vellum
Extending Thickener
Saryrn's Ink Additive
Ink of Pain
Ink of Saryrn
Chronal Resonance Dust

Nectar of Pain is identical to Blood of Yoppa (70 Shaman, OoW). So should simply be Blood of Yoppa + Chronal Resonance Dust. But it's DNC atm.

For argument's sake, Nectar of Pain is the Shaman's equivalent of Corath Venom (69 Necro, PoR). Corath Venom combines standardly because there is no level clash (the PoR spell being lvl 69 vs the OoW spell being lvl 70). Thus, the only variant for Nectar of Pain should be how the recipe clash is being dealt with. If not with Chronal Resonance Dust, then what?

Note - Blood of Yoppa's recipe has not changed in the TS UI.

I made Nectar of Pain this morning. I made it with the EXACT SAME RECIPE as Blood of Yoppa. I can look at both recipes in my TS UI, and the only difference I see is name and trivial (Nectar is slightly lower). I looked at both recipes like 10 times just to confirm my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.

Trivial for Nectar of Pain is 372.

[Elfdruidess]

I made Nectar of Pain this morning. I made it with the EXACT SAME RECIPE as Blood of Yoppa. I can look at both recipes in my TS UI, and the only difference I see is name and trivial (Nectar is slightly lower). I looked at both recipes like 10 times just to confirm my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.

I finally use the "experiment" option of the TS UI to combine the recipe of Dark Possession. And yeap. I got Grave Pact.

The recipe for Dark Possession and Grave Pact are exactly the same as shown in the TS UI.

[Elfdruidess]

So far, here is a list of the "exactly the same recipe" problem:

1) the PoR spells are combinable
2) the OoW spells are showing the same recipes in the TS UI

Spear of Ro (70 mage, PoR) = Star Strike (70 mage, OoW)
Nectar of Pain (70 shaman, PoR) = Blood of Yoppa (70 shaman, OoW)
Grave Pact (70 necro, PoR) = Dark Possession (70 necro, OoW)