Old Spell Research Recipes - Do They Still Work?

[Shiqra]

I apologize if the information I seek is elsewhere here; I looked but must be blind because I could not find it. I heard a rumor that old EQ spell research recipes (runes for wizzies, pages for chanters, words for mages, etc) no longer work? I haven't played in awhile, but I have a bankful of the old components. Before I sell it all off, can they still be used?

Thank you all for your time.

[Xerius]

Some of the old Research components can still be used for other purposes (Celestial Essence), but none of them work anymore for Research purposes.

Research has been replaced by a system based on Pages, Inks, Thickeners, Quills, and Additives, each of which dictate the level, attributes, or class of the spell made.

The new system is fairly intuitive, although it does take a bit of work to first learn.

[Shiqra]

Thank you very much for the info. I was hoping that wasn't true.

Well curses! I LIKED the old system. Granted, the mage spell research was a PITA, and could probably have have used some changes, but the others were fine. I don't mind them adding a new system - but completely doing away with the old system makes me angry. That really screws over the folks who are trying to do EQ the old school way (they are still out there, mostly hiding out on the Combine server).

I don't like impossibly hard, but I prefer a challenge. If I wanted a dumbed down MMORPG I'd go play WoW. So now all I have to do is go buy components from a vendor and hit combine until voila, a spell appears? Blech. Easy, granted, but *yawn*.

Sorry, my 2cp. /rant off

*goes off to find the new recipes on the website to see if her old tomes are still used*

[Ngreth Thergn]

Thank you very much for the info. I was hoping that wasn't true.

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I don't like impossibly hard, but I prefer a challenge. If I wanted a dumbed down MMORPG I'd go play WoW. So now all I have to do is go buy components from a vendor and hit combine until voila, a spell appears? Blech. Easy, granted, but *yawn*.

Sorry, my 2cp. /rant off

*goes off to find the new recipes on the website to see if her old tomes are still used*

EVERY singe spell requires a drop. Sure not every part is a drop, but every single spell requires at least one drop.

And it is certainly a more complicated system than WoW.

[Zaltak]

The parchments are the dropped items and also determine the lvl of the spell you are makeing. FYI the old research items can also be used to make LoY swatches for tailoring:-)

[Maevenniia]

Thank you very much for the info. I was hoping that wasn't true.

Well curses! I LIKED the old system. Granted, the mage spell research was a PITA, and could probably have have used some changes, but the others were fine. I don't mind them adding a new system - but completely doing away with the old system makes me angry. That really screws over the folks who are trying to do EQ the old school way (they are still out there, mostly hiding out on the Combine server).

I don't like impossibly hard, but I prefer a challenge. If I wanted a dumbed down MMORPG I'd go play WoW. So now all I have to do is go buy components from a vendor and hit combine until voila, a spell appears? Blech. Easy, granted, but *yawn*.

Sorry, my 2cp. /rant off

*goes off to find the new recipes on the website to see if her old tomes are still used*

Before you start ranting about something you know nothing about, why don't you read up on the new Systematic Research?

As Ngreth stated, EVERY spell still requires a dropped component, and it's not "Wow-ified". The new system is intuitive, in that if you know ABOUT the spell (ie: what class, level, type, resist types) then you can figure out what components you will need. No more guessing by plunking completely random stuff (that has nothing to do with the spell's properties, btw!) into a tome and clicking combine, and hoping you miraculously found a combo that works.

Also, you can save components as you level up (RAw ___ Hides & various parchments, scrolls, papyrus) and also ____ Binding Powders (for relatively cheap skillups.)

Finally, any INT caster can research each others' spells as well as the WIS caster ones now.

[Nolrog]

I don't like impossibly hard, but I prefer a challenge. If I wanted a dumbed down MMORPG I'd go play WoW. So now all I have to do is go buy components from a vendor and hit combine until voila, a spell appears? Blech. Easy, granted, but *yawn*.

Sorry, my 2cp. /rant off

*goes off to find the new recipes on the website to see if her old tomes are still used*

I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. The new research is far from being dumbed down. In fact, it's much more complex (and flexible) than it used to be.

Read up on it a bit, and you'll see that it's not even close to "buy components from a vendor and hit combine until voila, a spell appears."

[Ozadar]

I totally agree. The new system is far more complex. Many more subcombines before you can even attempt the final combine for a spell.

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[Andarriel]

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new research is much better than the old way.

Andarriel

[Prexis]

And it is certainly a more complicated system than WoW.

One thing I really hate about WoW tradeskills is that you can't do any combine until you scribe the recipe, which of course you must find. I do however like their ability to allow the game to do all combines. Allows you to do do something else for a few minutes while it combines everything.