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    I am currently at 230 on research with a whole bunch of completed pages (did the combine with the solvent to make the level research page) Now I am looking to the future for the best spells to be making per level, I am not worried about the class as most of these will be bazaar fodder any how to recover the cost of making the solvents.

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  • #2
    Only advice I have is to monitor your bazaar for your server economy. Find a niche and fill the need. Be good to customers, give them breaks for multiple purchases or buying for friends. Advertise with moderation.

    People learn where to go for items and spells are no different. Give them what they want at a competative price and you are on your way.


    As for spells, I always consider which ones are useful and / or benefited me most, thus I would be more willing / likely to purchase. Check those items in the bazaar to see if there is competition and go from there.


    You are in the tough spot though. There is not a large demand for the 61-64 spells, and your skill is not high enough to effectively do the 65-70 ones.


    Good luck.



    Gorse

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    • #3
      There is still a market for spells, but there are few that are a big deal anymore because even the ones that did not have upgrades now do since TSS came out.

      Aside from that I have found that LDoN spells (Pally Vrtue and Necros' Horror plus the Protection of Calliav spells) sell well.

      Also, any of the major group buff spells...like Hov, HoC and F07 which are generally WAY overpriced. Elemental Siphon and Monster Summoning IV always did well, because the former is a 70 spell upgrade and the latter has none.

      GoD spells sold well, too.

      What I have found very helpful is when I get into pick up groups I mention to people that I can make the spells, then you spread by word of mouth and take requests. As long as you don't gouge people you can get a lot of business this way.
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      • #4
        The best thing is to grab a list of the non-int caster spells for your target lvl. The go through and see what each is selling for on your server. If there are ones not being sold then that is an opportunity for you as long as it is not a useless spell. Also if some are being sold but the price is a bit high then make 1 and sell at a fair price. Personally I have found RNG and BST spells sell OK, as everyone make cleric ones.

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        • #5
          Excellent point about the non-INT caster spells. One thing I have also found is that through word of mouth sales, a LOT of melee people buy Shammy spells. It seems very popular to have an alt shammy for buffs/soloing, and it is easier to have them made than to farm the runes. As people have said though, it kind of depends on what's out there for your server.
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          • #6
            Ironically, I am selling more GoD spells now faster, than I have in the past... even though my price hasn't changed. Even more strange... it's spells that I wouldn't even think would sell.

            Lately though, I ran into the point where I ran out of the smudge parchments from the whole leveling binge in 69.1. I am assuming a lot of others who constantly kept full stocks up did as well. Might be what is causing the demand to look bigger than it actually might be.

            I've been finding that 69/70 spells are selling fairly well as well. The profit margin is worth the added risk however.

            Biggest issue I found with the LDoN spells is that the market saturated with people blowing LDoN points and cashing them in on spells that were no longer no drop.

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            • #7
              I'm not surprised that the GoD spell market might be improving.

              As you noticed, less people doing 69.1 means a lot less parchments available.

              Also, I dunno the situation on your server but on mine there are only a handful of active researchers. Normally, one person leaving a market wouldn't matter. However, if there are only 3 or 4 researchers total and no new market entries, and if one of them drops that market and switches entirely to making OoW spells, that creates a significant drop in supply.

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              • #8
                I haven't really noticed very many OoW spells entering the bazaar either except for some of the big ones (like someone had 8 copies of Champion up at one time). The market for OoW has been pretty much wide open as well.

                But, the thing that hurts with 69.1 that you bring up... comes in the simple fact that I got rather use to 300-500pp per parchment lol going back to 2k kinda stings a bit.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wyvernwill View Post
                  Ironically, I am selling more GoD spells now faster, than I have in the past... even though my price hasn't changed. Even more strange... it's spells that I wouldn't even think would sell.
                  dont forget all those Drakkin alts are hitting levels 60-70. Im sure quite a few of your spells are going to them.

                  Couldnt tell you how many friends alts Ive totally outfitted allready with lvl 61-68 spells.

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                  • #10
                    Yes something weird has happened to the raw parchment scene in the last few weeks.

                    On AB where 70 Vellums were 15k are now 30k, 69 vellums have jumped from 5k to 15k. At those prices the market for those spells will dry up real quick. People are going to baulk at the end spell price if greedy suckers are trying to corner what is a low volume market. I am happy that I can farm mobs and get the odd 69 to drop so I can still offer them at reasonable prices. However I have not made a 70 in weeks as no-one wants to pay that much for them.

                    I am hoping with the release of TBS the parchment shortage will resolve it's self.

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                    • #11
                      I'm on the same server as Qaladar and since we have very little competition its easy to monitor where everyone is focusing and keep abreast of our competitors pricing. At the same time, I'm experiencing a lot of peeps price shopping.

                      I find the hardest part of selling the spells is getting the masses educated on how having spells researched can save them plat and/or time. Many peeps are very surprised I can make the spells for about half the price of the runes (and with a nice profit) or get them the PoP rare spells right away (why anyone still buys PoP turn-ins mystifies me).

                      I have noticed by advertising in bazaar and general chat that I make spells to order I get a lot of inquiries usually resulting in at least 1 sale.

                      BTW, I don't spam, I put one advert message at most every 15 minutes and have never had a spam related complaint. Spamming, IMO, is the surest way to get on ignore lists and lose business.

                      I am hoping with the release of TBS the parchment shortage will resolve it's self.
                      I might be missing something but I assume the release of TBS will only make the shortage more severe.
                      Regards,



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by greblhad View Post
                        I might be missing something but I assume the release of TBS will only make the shortage more severe.
                        The thing that you "might" be missing is the pattern with Research. DoDh released the systematic style. PoR had parchments dropping from all levels of the available spells. TSS still has all levels of parchments, including the newest ones. The assumption would be that TBS would continue the trend and mobs at the proper levels would drop the parchments as well.

                        Is this gauranteed? No. Will it solve the parchment rarity issue? Maybe in the short term as people explore the expansion.

                        TSS in a large way solved a huge problem (albeit short term) with the Smudged Runic Parchments not showing up as much as demand. The leveling grind in 69.1 ended up with thousands of parchments showing up in the bazaar. But now... we're back at the point we were near the end of PoR.

                        Atleast that's what I am thinking he's talking about.

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