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    It took me a bit, however, I think I've got it. You will need some help from a Necro, Enchanter, and Mage though, to fully verify it.

    There are 3 distinct recipes for Spell:Paralyzing Earth. They are all useable by CLR and SHM, but are restricted to the class of the maker, IE my research yields a spell useable by CLR/SHM/WIZ. The other two are CLR/SHM/NEC and CLR/SHM/ENC. MAGES cannot make this. THEY CANNOT ROOT Furthermore, each spell is respectivly NOT makeable by the other (class restricted combine?), so the WIZ version, runes but the one WITHOUT the Flake of Lodestone, is makeable ONLY by WIZ; and a WIZ CANNOT make the version using runes WITH the flake of Lodestone; and I presume cannot make the one using necro pages. This way, all the research classes that can use the spell as well, can only make their version, but each is also shareable with the priests who can use it; none of the classes who CANNOT use it, can make it or get it. Hope your mind does not hurt!

    I think this oddity occurs because it is one of the few spells that only some of both casters and priests can use.

    Thorild of E Marr. Research (204) + 10%....and rising!

    Note: I had a necromancer buddy try the rune+Flake recipe; it DNC in book of Dark Bindings. also, the recipe for Necromancer Paralyzing Earth has only 1 component listed...err....well...not sure how you combine 1 ingredient!
    Last edited by thorild; 07-23-2005, 12:46 PM.

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    Originally posted by thorild
    It took me a bit, however, I think I've got it. You will need some help from a Necro, Enchanter, and Mage though, to fully verify it.

    There are 3 distinct recipes for Spell:Paralyzing Earth. They are all useable by CLR and SHM, but are restricted to the class of the maker

    Note: I had a necromancer buddy try the rune+Flake recipe; it DNC in book of Dark Bindings. also, the recipe for Necromancer Paralyzing Earth has only 1 component listed...err....well...not sure how you combine 1 ingredient!
    There are four recipes which yield 3 different spell scrolls by the same name.
    Enchanter: http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=8849
    Necro: http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=8913
    Wizard: http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=8933
    Priest: http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=8913 (Second recipe)

    I've made many copies of this scroll with my wizard and several copies with my enchanter. I don't think I've ever made the priest version, but I can check.

    I have heard about the single-page combine before and I tend to believe the necro recipe for paralyzing earth is perfectly valid. This wouldn't be the only single-item combine by a long shot. (For more examples, look up "A Faded" in the search engine of the main site.)

    Just to add my observations...
    1. A research combine which uses only Runes (or runes with quill and parchment) can ONLY be made by a wizard.
    2. A research combine which uses only Words (or words with quill and parchment) can ONLY be made by a necromancer.
    3. A research combine which uses only Pages (or pages with quill and parchment) can ONLY be made by an enchanter.
    4. I feel bad for mages, because there's no rule so simple. Mage spells frequently (always?) involve Words but frequently (always?) involve another component with an odd name.

    The recipe for any spell under level 50 will follow the patterns listed above from my experience. I think Paralyzing Earth is kind of an odd example because it's under 50.

    In fact, even post-50 spells follow those patterns with the exception of the priest spell combines. Those can be made by any researcher. They seem to generally (always?) use research components from AT LEAST two classes.

    My wizard has a sizable stockpile of pages and words that are used in post-50 priest research and those things that mages use in research.
    Last edited by Neebat; 07-29-2005, 04:04 PM.
    I tried combining Celestial Solvent, a Raw Rough Hide, Rough Hide Solution and a Skinning Knife. But the result was such an oxymoron, it opened a rift into another universe. I fell through into one of Nodyin's spreadsheets and was slain by a misplaced decimal.

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    • #3
      I'm a necro and haven't bothered to check if other spells have multiple combines. But what I think the original poster was getting at is there is a regular research Paralyzing Earth that uses the single words of crippling force for necros and priests. Plus there is also a priest research Paralyzing Earth which uses the flake of lodestone, rune of incitement and rune of opposition for necros and priests as well. For me I'd rather do the single word combine for a spell of the same result.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Xorikk
        I'm a necro and haven't bothered to check if other spells have multiple combines. But what I think the original poster was getting at is there is a regular research Paralyzing Earth that uses the single words of crippling force for necros and priests. Plus there is also a priest research Paralyzing Earth which uses the flake of lodestone, rune of incitement and rune of opposition for necros and priests as well. For me I'd rather do the single word combine for a spell of the same result.
        OH! There's FOUR recipes for Paralyzing Earth. I gave this link and somehow missed the fact that it shows two recipes.
        http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=8913

        I'm very curious now what classes are listed on the scroll produced. I'd go try it if those incitement runes weren't so darned rare.

        I've corrected a few inaccuracies in my above post to reflect this additional recipe.

        For an example of another spell with multiple recipes, check out this one:
        http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=9073

        All 3 recipes produce the same spell. The annoying bit, the spell is LORE. One of the few LORE spells I've seen.
        Last edited by Neebat; 07-29-2005, 03:15 PM.
        I tried combining Celestial Solvent, a Raw Rough Hide, Rough Hide Solution and a Skinning Knife. But the result was such an oxymoron, it opened a rift into another universe. I fell through into one of Nodyin's spreadsheets and was slain by a misplaced decimal.

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        • #5
          Most of the rare Luclin spell scrolls are lore. Levitation, Everlasting Breath, Acumen of Dar'Khura, Moonfire, Garrison's Superior Sundering, Elnerick's Electrical Rending, Conglaciation of Bone, Dead Men Floating, etc.

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          • #6
            Funeral pyre, RGC..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qaladar Bragollach
              Most of the rare Luclin spell scrolls are lore. Levitation, Everlasting Breath, Acumen of Dar'Khura, Moonfire, Garrison's Superior Sundering, Elnerick's Electrical Rending, Conglaciation of Bone, Dead Men Floating, etc.
              Ah ha! That's why it seemed strange to me. I don't get enough of the parts for most of those. I think I've made Everlasting Breat once. Not sure I've ever made the others. I've made Levitation many times. I had so many components for it that at one time I had to stop making it until I sold some copy to make space on mules.
              I tried combining Celestial Solvent, a Raw Rough Hide, Rough Hide Solution and a Skinning Knife. But the result was such an oxymoron, it opened a rift into another universe. I fell through into one of Nodyin's spreadsheets and was slain by a misplaced decimal.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Qaladar Bragollach
                Most of the rare Luclin spell scrolls are lore. Levitation, Everlasting Breath, Acumen of Dar'Khura, Moonfire, Garrison's Superior Sundering, Elnerick's Electrical Rending, Conglaciation of Bone, Dead Men Floating, etc.
                That is good to know before you make a few of the same spell scrolls in succession. For example, if you try to make 2+ Everlasting Breath scrolls in one sitting the extra ones will be erased by the LORE tag.

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