question; Shawl 8, Dain pop question

[droomagon]

If I'm not mistaken, that Dain can only be summoned once?

I handed in my Shawl 7 today, to Loremaster Borannin, whom called and summoned up Dain himself, I gave Dain my shawl, and now its now marked... correct?

But after my guild found out that Dain is up, they marched in to kill him, even though I asked them not to kill him, they decide to ignore my request anyhow.:evil:

The question is... how could I get Dain himself to pop again ?? :?

[Gorgin]

Wait for his spawn cycle to come up or know someone else with the shawl coming to spawn him, it's the only way.

[Ausversucht]

Your own guild did this to you? I'd be looking for a new guild myself.

[Antoin]

Re: question; Shawl 8, Dain pop question

If I'm not mistaken, that Dain can only be summoned once?

I handed in my Shawl 7 today, to Loremaster Borannin, whom called and summoned up Dain himself, I gave Dain my shawl, and now its now marked... correct?

But after my guild found out that Dain is up, they marched in to kill him, even though I asked them not to kill him, they decide to ignore my request anyhow.:evil:

The question is... how could I get Dain himself to pop again ?? :?

First question: Right.
Second question: Yes. Verify with identify.
Three: Your own guild? I'm with the rest of the posters telling you to find another guild. I hope you had everything you needed to hand to him, because they just screwed you over.
Four: Camp him. Only way.

*ALERT*: READ The Warning before you give your shawl to ANY coldain associated with the Eighth Shawl. If you give your shawl to certain coldain before the Dain has been summoned, you may lose your ability to summon the Dain entirely, meaning you will have to wait for him to spawn on his own and nab him before he's killed. The (Original) and (Approved) notes throughout the NPC Text are related to this issue. See The Warning for details.

http://www.eqtraders.com/quests/eighth.htm#warn

[Silound]

As I understand it, Dain is a 7 day timer, and hes up right after a patch/server reset. Seems on Prexus he's up for a day or two before taken out. And I agree, if your guild killed him after you spawned him, I would seriously blacklist your guild and get a new one.

Silound

[Kahmon]

I agree that you should not stay in a guild that would stab you in the back like that. However, I think this is your own fault. If you were prepared ahead of time then you would not be in this situation. By making all the armor ahead of time before summoning the dain then you could have summoned him, gotten the container and done your hand in in under 2 minutes. There is not a guild in EQ that could organize a dain raid in that time span. Out of paranoia, I personally did my hand in at 2am with nobody else in the zone.

[Ilona]

The last time I did the shawl, and again when I helped my bf do it, although we thought we had all the armour ready and imbued, there was one piece that wasn't imbued as we thought.

I was very lucky that I was able to get the last gem within an hour or so and the Dain was still up when I returned. For my bf's shawl, we were not able to get the gem until the following evening, by which time the Dain had disappeared.

If I had asked my guild to NOT kill the Dain because of a problem like that, and they did so anyway.... I would consider whether that was a guild I would like to stay in....

Thankfully the Dain spawned for my bf a few hours later (or someone else had spawned him with their shawl, I will never know) and all was well.

[splunge]

Yah, it was lame of his guild to kill dain like that before he could turn in the armor, but any guild could have come in within 20 minutes and killed him. Hes not hard to spot.

IMHO, it should be added to the shawl quest info that once you have the 7th shawl handed to you, do NOT DO ANYTHING with that shawl until you have COMPLETED making the armor and are READY to turn it into the Dain.

THEN you Summon the dain, turn in 7th shawl, get the issuing box, do the combine and turn it in for the marching orders. THEN you can tell your guild to come kill the little bugger.

If your guild, or any guild for that matter, can spot your spawning the dain, tell everyone, get a raid together, get em to the zone, buff em, pull and kill his guards and then pull him before you can turn in 2 things to him... (read: about 15 seconds)... They freekin earned it.

That another reason i like my server. I dont think Dain has been killed in well over a year. Hes ALWAYS up. =)

[Verdandi]

IMHO, it should be added to the shawl quest info that once you have the 7th shawl handed to you, do NOT DO ANYTHING with that shawl until you have COMPLETED making the armor and are READY to turn it into the Dain.

THEN you Summon the dain, turn in 7th shawl, get the issuing box, do the combine and turn it in for the marching orders. THEN you can tell your guild to come kill the little bugger.

Isn't that what it says? I've got the brief warning at the top to grab people's attention, and then the more detailed one down in the middle saying, among other things:

Step 1: Talk to Loremaster Borannin if you did not already at the end of the seventh.
Step 2: Craft all of the pieces of Imbued Royal Velium Armor.
Step 3: Spawn the Dain if he is not already available and get the Royal Coldain Orders.
Step 4: Immediately run to Loremaster Solstrin and get the Issue Kit.
Step 5: Immediately combine the prepared armor in the Issue Kit.
Step 6: Immediately go give the Coldain Standard Issue Kit to the Dain.
Step 7: Whenever your raid force is ready, take the Approved Issue Kit to General Bragmur in Iceclad and complete the quest with the war and ending conversation with the Avatar of Brell.

What else should I be saying?

[Bregalad]

I think the guild did what was best.

I take it you did not have your armor set ready when you handed your shawl to Dain, right? If that is so, no way in hell would you be able to get your armor complete before someone took Dain out. If not your guild, then some other. Dain is a prime raid target.

My advice to you: once you have your armor all made and ready for turn-in, go to geonid caves, and look for people farming unrefined. For the most part, those will be people who have their 7th shawl and are going for the 8th. Over my unrefined camp I met at least 5 such people. Explain your situation to them, and ask to give you a tell when they are about to do their turn ins.

I did my turn in yesterday. Zoned to Icewell, was alone there. Went up, summoned Dain, got royal orders from Dain, ran down, handed orders to Solestrin, handed shawl to Solestrin, stuffed armor into box, hit combine, ran back to Dain, and handed him the box. Took less than 2 min.