Odylic Vials, Essenses and Shields, oh my!

[Demorgoth]

There are two seperate items from killing the elemental gods.

One is the item you get from Hailing the PP after the kill, eg:


The other item is a completely different thing, that actually drops ocasionally from the elemental bosses themselves:
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Now, there's this book that spawns on the ground on Xegony Island in PoAir, relating to these:


and there's also this book quest, which I think is from 'Magnificent Glazes of the Planes' (book) - Gligo Muddypants (385, 868), might have to hail him or talk to him to get it:

I, Frana Shimi, have speculated for the Lords of War an answer for a new type of container. The problem that you had presented to me was the ability to seal off the very power of the elements. No material has the ability to hold all of the powers of the elements at one time.

I believe though if you were to create an unfired medium container and then fire it with two high quality firing sheets covered in Multielemental glaze it would create an invulnerable container. To make the multielement glaze, you will need to mix together the four base element glazes: windy glaze, aqua glaze, earthen glaze, and magma glaze in a glaze mortar.

I dare not imagine why you would need to combine the quintessense of the elements, or what you would do with it. Please consider my time here spent well, and set my soul at rest. I have toiled here for long

All this together, leads me to the following assumptions:

1: Access to PoTime is through the equipable items gotten from hailing the PP (eg: Globe of Dancing Flame).

2: The God dropped items (Essense of Air, etc) are part of a seperate quest. Get one from each god, combine in the pottery-made jar to get an item: The Quintessence of the Elements.

So.... WTF is that? I'm guessing it's one of two things. Possibly it's a key to an area inside PoTime, maybe it's the key to PoTb. Another strong theory is that it triggers an event in PoInnovation that you need to do to trigger the grand opening of PoTime, and/or activation the regular PoTime keys. Given the text, it's also possible that it's an Aten necklace quest on crack.

The quest clearly states essense --> jar, and the god drops are clearly called 'essense', whereas the PP hails aren't. Several people have been talking about needing multielemental glaze for every last person in the guild, but I think the rarity of those essenses makes that impossible. I'm presenting my evidence here as to why I think the evidence points to the shields being for the key, and the rare drop essenses being for the Odylic vial.

[Iustus]

2: The God dropped items (Essense of Air, etc) are part of a seperate quest. Get one from each god, combine in the pottery-made jar to get an item: The Quintessence of the Elements.

Partially correct, they are a separate quest, but you do not use a pottery item for it.

You say, 'Hail, Councilwoman Kerasha'
Councilwoman Kerasha says 'Greetings Iustus! It pleases me very much that you were able to help Eino out in his time of need.' Councilwoman Kerasha glances at Eino 'Tunare only knows what I with do without him at my side. There is another matter at hand that has come to the attention of the council that is beyond even our combined power and requires the aid of a powerful alliance. Would you be willing to aid Tanaan?'
You say, 'I am willing to aid Tanaan'
Councilwoman Kerasha says 'A rift in this plane at the point of harmony upon which the city of Tanaan is built is crumbling. The other council members do not see it happening for they lack the sight that I posses. Granted it will take time but it is something that must be set to right or our home shall fall to waste amongst the tides of the Planes.' Councilwoman Kerasha's body grows rigid 'I did not spend my life in defense of this city to watch it crumble into dust! The way to repair the breech is difficult but I feel Tunare will grant me the strength once I have the four essences of power in my grasp.'
You say, 'What four essences of power'
Councilwoman Kerasha says 'The powers that watch over the four elemental planes all guard their respective essence of power. You must defeat each of them in turn and place them all within this sacred bowl. Once I have the combined power of the planes I can begin the ceremony and set the foundation of the city to rights. Thank you for your offer to assist me Iustus.'

You recieve a "Sacred Bowl" 4 slot combineable container.

-I

[Demorgoth]

Whilst that does also use the term 'essense', the Jar text CLEARLY refers to it being used in the Quintessence quest with this line:

I dare not imagine why you would need to combine the quintessense of the elements

The Kerasha quest asks for 'essense of power', multiple times. The lore text on the Fennin shield for example is 'Fire dances across the surface of the globe'. That could be interpretted as 'The Essense of Fennin's Power', ie: fire, more easily than that fire being the 'essense of the element: fire' IMO.

All conjecture and interpretation at this point, but the rare drop 'Essense of Fire' etc. so seem very clearly linked to the Odylic Jar to make the fifth element.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Quintessense of the Elements
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: FINGER
Skill Modifier: Wolf Legs
AC: +75
STR: +30 DEX: +30 STA: +30 WIS: +30 INT: +30
AGI: +30 HP: +235 MANA: +235 SV FIRE: +35
SV DISEASE: +35 SV COLD: +35 SV MAGIC: +35 SV POISON: +35
Required level of 65.
Effect: Quintessential Power (Worn)
Focus Effect: Quintessential Speed
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL


Skill Modifier: Wolf Legs: It's Run 6, gives you SoW speed Run.
Effect: Quintessential Power (Worn): +10HP/Mana per Tick with 10 DS DOES NOT count as FT for FT cap.
Focus Effect: Quintessential Speed: Spell haste +30%

Yes, this is farce, but that is what I would love to see

* Edit by board moderator - changed color and size of disclaimer. Please, we're an informational site, try not to start any rumors? M'kay? ~Lothay

[Iustus]

could someone delete the fake post above? someone will believe it

-I

[Gorgin]

Infiniti has a disclaimer right below it but the print is so **** small it's almost elligible. It says Yes this is fake but that is what I would love to see.

[Jaradis Stormcaller]

[Sat Jan 11 23:19:59 2003] Maelin tells you, 'There is no way to escape from the prison that is The Plane of Time. I am sorry but your quest for information ends here. Time is something that none of us can escape. That is however, back when my explorations of the Planes were more common, I would travel searching for knowledge and lore to bring back to Tanaan. I stumbled into the Plane of Innovation. It was a great marvel to see indeed. I found the creator of all things mechanical. Meldrath the Marvelous was a kind and just gnome. We spent many weeks together discussing all of his devices. This included a machine that would allow you to open a tear into a period of time and enter into that time. The machine was more of a flight of whimsy though as the power necessary to power such a machine was enormous. He jokingly equated needing the very essence of the elements to power it.'

[Sat Jan 11 23:19:59 2003] Maelin takes a deep breath and continues, 'I can see now that he was not joking at all. Let us suppose that you travelers could venture into the Elemental Planes and retrieve this essence; and form it into one powerful conglomeration. You could open a tear into the period of time before Zebuxoruk was imprisoned. There is no way you can free him from his stasis now, but if you were to halt the Pantheon at the time of imprisonment. Hah! It could work I do believe. Forgive me, but my old gnomish heart is alive with the excitement of possibilities. Gather up your strength friends, travel into the deep elements. You will need all of your wits about you. Find the very essence of the elementals, and fuse them into one. How to combine them I do not know, and can only wish you luck on finding that information. If you can accomplish this please come get me. I would like to record the events as they take place!'

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There is a giant machine in the basement of Innovation that looks like this: Picture

When you click on the machine it says:

"The gears turn slowly, but a lack of power prevents it from initializing startup."
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Book: Quintessence of Elements. Lore, No Drop, No Rent. Written in common. Full text below.

Soon after the creation of the elder gods by the Nameless, while the gods were placing their creations onto Norrath, the elemental gods gathered to make their own creation. Unlike what the other gods created on Norrath, Fennin Ro, Tarew Marr, The Rathe Council, and Xegony gathered for their own creation. They combined the very essence of their beings and created an object of infinite power, the Quintessence of the Elements.

Once created the gods realized the danger any wielder of it would possess, so they locked it away in the Rathe's vault. Very soon after its creation, the other gods learned what had been created and most watched in envy, however The Warlord, Rallos Zek, saw great potential power in the object. He planned a raid on the Plane of Earth, to assault The Rathe's Vault to steal the Quintessence. His assault failed, but resulted in the death of the Council and the locking of mortals from the Planes of Power. The four elementals realized the danger of allowing the Quintessence to exists, and realized the danger should any one of them posses it in its entirely, so they agreed to break it into its elemental components. Since then, each of the elemental gods has protected their piece of the Quintessence, while the rest of the Pantheon thought it destroyed.

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Quoting from a book, "Advanced Glazeworking", obtained from a slave/captured Vah Shir in the Plane of Tactics.

I, Frana Shimi, have speculated for the Lords of War an answer for a new type of container. The problem that you had presented to me was the ability to seal off the very power of the elements. No material has the ability to hold all of the powers of the elements at one time.

I believe though if you were to create an unfired medium container and then fire it with two high quality firing sheets covered in Multielemental glaze it would create an invulnerable container. To make the multielement glaze, you will need to mix together the four base element glazes: windy glaze, aqua glaze, earthen glaze, and magma glaze in a glaze mortar.

I dare not imagine why you would need to combine the quintessense of the elements, or what you would do with it. Please consider my time here spent well, and set my soul at rest. I have toiled here for long.

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Upon completion of the 2nd Clockwork Talisman:

Elder Clinka says 'it is a pleasure to see meet you. I've heard a great deal about you from the other elders. Please give me a moment to scan over this for you.'

Elder Clinka scans the schematic for a few seconds, mumbling s she reads, 'This parchment states that you are to place a small shard of concentrated elemental matter into each of the holes in your talisman.' She points a finger to the diagram as she begins to recount what she has learned from it, 'They would then need to be locked into place, as the diagram indicates here.'

Elder Clinka says 'If you bring me a fragment or shard of some living creature from each of the elemental planes, I will see if we can make this device work. Place them in this lined box and return them to me immediately with your talisman. In the meantime, I will continue to translate this document from it's original language.

Upon completion of the 3rd Clockwork Talisman:

Elder Clinka carefully opens the small box and takes several small tools from the pocket in her robe. Her nimble fingers place the glowing elemental pieces into the appropriate sockets and covers them with several small caps that she must have made while you were away.

Elder Clinka then looks up at you and says, 'This device is called the Binden Concerentia. It's true power will be revealed to you soon. This Document describes it as a device that is meant to convert the energy that can be found in true prime elemental matter, into an entirely new form of energy. The schematic states that this energy will 'bind you to the now'. I am not sure what that means but I believe you will soon find out.

Elder Clinka says 'Take care of it and keep it with you at all times,. I feel that your journey from this point wil only become more dangerous. Perhaps this device will play a role in all of that. Move forward along the path of enlightenment. May the Balance guide your fate.

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Here is my theory:

The machine in PoI is the machine needed to access Plane of Time. Its lacking the power to run. It is “needing the very essence of the elements to power it.” Those essences are the ones dropped by the gods themselves (The four elementals realized the danger of allowing the Quintessence to exists, and realized the danger should any one of them posses it in its entirely, so they agreed to break it into its elemental components.), combined make the Quintessence of the Elements: “very essence of their beings and created an object of infinite power, the Quintessence of the Elements. Combining the 4 Essences will create the power source needed to power the machine. The pottery book clearly states that the Invulnerable Container (Odylic Vial) is used to combine the 4 Essences back into the Quintessence of the Elements.

From Maelin: “Let us suppose that you travelers could venture into the Elemental Planes and retrieve this essence; and form it into one powerful conglomeration. You could open a tear into the period of time before Zebuxoruk was imprisoned. There is no way you can free him from his stasis now, but if you were to halt the Pantheon at the time of imprisonment. Hah! It could work I do believe.”

So with the Quintessence of the Elementals reformed we now can power up the machine and “could open a tear into the period of time before Zebuxoruk was imprisoned.” The problem is once you go back to that time, how do you get back to the present.

Elder Clinka then looks up at you and says, 'This device is called the Binden Concerentia. It's true power will be revealed to you soon. This Document describes it as a device that is meant to convert the energy that can be found in true prime elemental matter, into an entirely new form of energy. The schematic states that this energy will 'bind you to the now'. I am not sure what that means but I believe you will soon find out.

So the Binden Concerentia, which already has 4 pieces of elemental matter in it (that’s how you made it, using the 4 pieces from each elemental plane) will be able to “bind you to the now” and allow you to "gate" back to the present (btw, the magician summoned stone has the same effect). Some have speculated that you may not be able to use normal gate/port/xloc spells in Time, and that you will need the Binden or mage stones.

As posted above, the "shields" may be used for a different quest... or its possible that the god essences are used for that quest as well. Until Rathe is defeated we won't really know for sure though.

[Dunthor Warsmith]

What pieces are used to make the Bindin Concertia? All the guides I've seen don't mention what the actual pieces are, but since the stats on the Concertia are known I have to assume its been made, and therefore the components known (unless it was just found with a spoofed item link).

From the *texts*, I would guess the PP hailed items (shields?) would be for the Concertia. "If you bring me a fragment or shard of some living creature from each of the elemental planes" - they're names seem to fit this description better, although since they only come from the PP after the boss dies, this seems odd for "some living creature" and also would mean the Concertia could not have yet been created as the Rathe hasn't been killed.

The Quintessince seems to more follow with the "Essence of Wind" style ones. The Essences are combined in the invulnerable pottery container. You then turn that in to Maelin (or hail her and she sees you have it?) who then either turns it into the Quintessence, or the original combine made the Quintessence and she just chats about it (or possibly modifies it, flags you, or somesuch). The quintessence is then the powersource for the PoI machine.

At least that's what the *texts* and the naming schemes of the items implies to me. Reality might be different from that though :P

And someone make that disclaimer bigger! (and change the typo from face to fake :P) It was just blurred pixels (ie 5 pixels tall and Times New Roman isn't able to render unique letters that size) in the original message, had to cut and past to read it.

[Gorgin]

A Living Fragment of Water, Earth, Air and Fire is used for the Binden. They randomly drop off mpehits from their respective zones(i.e. Trilouns, Vekerkichiki, Temple Guardians, and Jorpals).

[Caladel]

Another possiblity is the the key to time uses the 4 essences you get from hailing the projections combined in the oydlic vial and that the vial is not used up. IE you need 1 vial per guild, which seems reasonable.

[Wandor]

Essense of XXXXX is not used in the PoT key. We have already gotten all four Essense of XXXXX since these seem to drop off any of the named in each of the elemental planes.

We already know we have to kill the 4 elemental gods to get into Time. It would stand to reason that the item you can get ONLY from killing an elemental god would be used to make the key to Time.

This can only lead to the conclusion that the 4 shields you get from hailing the projections after killing the gods are what will be combined in the Odylic vial. The container is tradeable so unless it is consumed when you do the combine, you would only need 1 per server (or guild) to get people with the 4 shields into PoT.

The Essense of XXXXX are not the items used since you can get all 4 without ever killing any elemental god. I would imagine these are combined in the container you get from Councilwoman Kerasha.

[Demorgoth]

Essense of XXXXX is not used in the PoT key. We have already gotten all four Essense of XXXXX since these seem to drop off any of the named in each of the elemental planes.

Can another else confirm this? We've killed literally 100s of the nameds in Fire and never seen them drop off anything cept Fennin. Same thing for Air. The only thing simlar is the 'Essense of Mud' that drops from a few of the earth namers - is that the same as what you have?

[Gorgin]

The Essence of Fire, Wind and Water only drop from Fennin, Xegony and Coirnav, the Essence of Mud was a screwed up drop and came from the Earth A mobs when it was only suppossed to be on The Rathe, The Rathe's drop has been changed to an unknown Essence so the 4 Essence of XXXXX are indeed only from gods.

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

Hmm

So can anyone confirm they tried the essences of fire water air and mud and it didn't work?

Surely AL or FoH or some guild has gotten all 4... LoS is missing water still.

[Jaradis Stormcaller]

Wandor, you are mistaken.

Essence of Wind, Essence of Fire, Essence of Water, and Essence of Earth ONLY come from Xegony, Fennin, Coirnav and Rathe. You are thinking of "A Living Fragment of xxx" which comes off the Mephits in each of the zones. These are used in the 3rd step of the Clockwork Talisman quest and result in The Binden Concerentia.

The Shields are most likely used in the PoK quest. My current theory is that the Essnces from each of the 4 gods will be combined in the Odylic Vial and "handed" to Meldrath's Time Machine to turn it on. If this turns the machine on for a small period of time or indefinately will have to be seen when its done. The quest in PoK mentioned above most likely will be how you obtain your personal Key to Time. Combine the 4 Orbs (shields) to get the key. I would guess that the Machine will be powered up and anyone in the /raid that activated it can then use their key from the orbs to zone into Time, with possibly a flag or key added to their characters, thus allowing access from PoTranq at a later point.