Filled Sacred Urn - Aid Grimel 4

[Hzark]

Can anyone confirm whether alakhazam is correct in listing this (for Aid Grimel 4) a no fail combine? (EQtraders just says trivial unknown).

Most of the other ingredients are easy to get, so I am not inclined to push my pottery beyond 220 if the Sacred Water combine is no fail.

[Zolina]

The sacred urn is a four-slot container, you put 3 sacred waters and the signet inside and hit Combine, no fail.

[Tudani]

Can I get someone also to confirm that this is no fail, just like to double check things before putting it into the database.

[Pootle]

Is there any way of confirming its a NoFail...... appart from asking if anyone has ever failed it.

Never have i read of anyone posting they failed it. I am pretty sure that we would know by now if you could fail it.

It is a quest container, I would say that its NoFail.

If its a Fail'able combine i will eat my hat....!

Disclamer:
By 'Hat' i mean JumJum Pie, and by 'If its fail'able' I mean whatever, i just want the pie.

[Tudani]

Yeah, it's hard to prove, but has anybody heard of anybody failing it? Do you recieve a trivial message when you combine it? Has anybody ever gotten a skillup on the combine? That info is what we use to determine if it's no fail.

[papyscott]

I thought quest container combines are all no fail. AFAIK there is no tradeskill involved and thus really no tradeskill check or failure possibility. It is like asking if a hand-in is a no fail combine...kind of weird

Papy

[Tudani]

It's always a possibility. Also can't you fail combines in the portable brew barrel in the brewing step of aid grimmel?

[Thorvari]

I did not get a trivial message when I did my combine.

I believe I did get the message that says you have made something new.

I have an unfired urn, and will be doing my 4th earring again, so I will let you know once I re-farm the waters and get my first earring higher (currently working on #5 for the first earring)

[Krazick]

I am fairly sure this is a no-fail combine, since it uses as a component of the prior quest as a component of the recipe. I have marked it as NO FAIL.

I figure if it did fail, and ate the Wooden Signet, people would have raised a ruckus about it long before now.

[Pootle]

I am fairly sure this is a no-fail combine, since it uses as a component of the prior quest as a component of the recipe. I have marked it as NO FAIL.


I hate to knock your reasoning, but the tailoring part, fire undergarment, uses the previous earing as a component and is failable.

But stick to your guns, i am sure its a NO FAIL.

[Krazick]

Hmmm... ok, I will clarify my clarification -

A Recipe that uses a container that has no other recipes, because it is a Quest Combine Container, (whether the container was created by you or handed to you by an NPC) will most likely be NO FAIL, especially if it uses a component from a prior quest as part of the recipe. If such a recipe can fail, the quested component should be returned.

Besides, nobody to my knowledge has reported a failure on filling the sacred urn.

With your example of the fire undergarment, Upon failure of making the item, the Metal Signet is returned (our recipe states that). Therefore, you don't have to go repeat all the prior steps in the quest.

[Pondain]

Never heard of a failure on filling the urn, but I did fail my combine in the portable brew barrel the first time I tried it. The difference there being that the previous quest item isn't placed into the container... My guess is that Krazick has it right...

[Aluaeia]

Never heard of a failure on filling the urn, but I did fail my combine in the portable brew barrel the first time I tried it. The difference there being that the previous quest item isn't placed into the container... My guess is that Krazick has it right...

Yes it is, you put the 3 double brewed constitutionals in the barrel, and your previous signet, to get the filled barrel that you turn in with the container to get the next signet.

[Elton]

urn is not a tradeskill container

The Urn is not a tradeskill container like the portable brew barrel is. It's like any bag combine, it is no-fail. The same applies for the final baking hand in. The bag you use to combine the Bristlebane Party Platters in isn't a tradeskill container. It is also a no-fail combine.

edit - I wanted to add this for clarification. If you can use the container to get skill points like the portable brew barrel, a jeweler's kit, a fletching kit, etc... the combine can fail. If the container you are using to combine things in can not be used to gain skill points the combine will be no-fail. Does that make more sense?

[Rissenn]

Combined this one 6 hours ago. NO FAIL COMBINE.