star ruby steins

[pennyrose]

When in the world to these steins get easier? I am at 233 pottery, add my geerlok to that and I'm getting up there, but the best I have ever done on these is 8 out of 20 and my usual yield is closer to 5. Wis is 249, I thinkm, with the latest upgrades, and sometimes higher if I use stat food and/or drink.

Pennyrose on behalf of Tazzia Mysteller, the potter

[Quesci]

At 243 with geerlok/trophy, I average roughly 50% success. I've had batches of 20 with as few as 8 and as many as 14 successes. Over approximately 700 steins that I made from 222 to 250, the average cost was 158pp. That works out to a 46% success rate, if you include failures on a lacquering a star ruby as a stein failure (which I do, as the gem is 95% of the cost of the stein).

They never get easier.

Also, I don't know if you are suggesting this with your mention of Wisdom, but Wisdom has no relationship to your success rate. That is an old rumor that manages to hang on. Wisdom just affects your rate of skill ups (and even then, only if it is higher than your INT). I apologize, if you knew that, but I just thought I'd be sure.

[Taushar]

Yep. 250 with trophy and wisdom of 310 (not that this helps) and I average about 50% on those. When guildies ask me to make these for the PotC quest, I tell them to bring two combines' worth so I can be sure to make one for them.

Taushar

[Obina]

...bring two combines' worth so I can be sure...

Heh heh, I feel the need to nitpick today. If they bring you 2 steins worth, they bring you the value you need for the combine, but 25% of the time you will not hand them back even one. Even if they bring you four, 6% of the time you will not give them a stein! Gotta love statistics!

I wont do this combine for people in "public". Failing combines in pottery just feels bad I take the loot and return a bit later with the finished item!

I remember making a Faithstone of Tunare for a friend while grouped. Gave me the stuff for 2. Though I'm sure I was at 40-50% success at the time, I failed both. Luckily, I had enough on me to make 5 more tries- but didn't succeed until the last one. At the time I could not very well afford burning through my mana vials like that. I'm sure glad my toon was not sweating and nervous as I was in RL 8)

Obina

[Reflan]

At 249 skill, equipping geerlok, I still fail half the time, sometimes more, sometimes less. Half is kinda close to right, but I tell you, I have had some bad runs even lately.

When skilling up, I didn't use geerlok because I wanted skill, not product, so I kept my epic in hand for the wisdom. (shaman)

I would seriously suggest doing old world idols if you are into skill ups rather than product. At your level, the failures are devastating to your bank account. I got it all back eventually, but getting pottery to 249 took me 40k. I wised up at like 242 or so and started doing some old world jade idols -- the jades cost under 5pp and I could imbue them myself. Beat the daylights out of star rubies for cost factor.

By the way, at 200 JC I lose a LOT of star rubies while lacquering. LOT. Definitely they have to count as part of the cost of making the steins. I was selling extra stacks of lacquered star rubies for weeks at 75pp just to get rid of them once I started jade idols, and was surprised they didn't move. I would have bought them myself in a heartbeat at that price, and saved a ton of money doing it. Finally, after the bitterness of spending so much money on pottery to get a barely useable skill started to fade, I just turned the star rubies into more steins and sold them. Nicely enough, they really do sell. It's most all of what I made from 220 to 249, quite a few hundreds.

[Quesci]

When skilling up, I didn't use geerlok because I wanted skill, not product, so I kept my epic in hand for the wisdom. (shaman).

I strongly suggest that people get their trophy as early as they can. At 242 with a geerlok, there is no reason to wait until 250. Then you can equip the trophy in the range slot and still get full benefit of the primary slot for INT/WIS stat items. The 10 INT/WIS on the trophy doesn't hurt either.

I tried doing star ruby steins without a geerlok. At skill 224 without a geerlok I succeeded about 1 for 5 (my notes show a cost for that run as 375pp per successful stein). The next time I did steins was at 226 with a geerlok and the per stein cost dropped to 180pp (2 for 5).

By the way, at 200 JC I lose a LOT of star rubies while lacquering. LOT.

At 250 JC with trophy I fail about 5% of them, adding roughly 3.5pp to the cost of each stein I make. I might buy them at 75pp just to save the hassle though.

[Reflan]

I've got the Divine Inspiration range slot with 15 wisdom; I would lose wisdom equipping a trophy. I was doing star ruby steins for skill ups primarily, not product. I'm not sure overall how much less pottery would have cost me to max with a geerlok and a little less wisdom and the cost of a trophy mixed in. I guess it's half a dozen of one, six of the other. When I failed to mount five black sapphires in a row for my pottery trophy, going through 3500pp in perhaps 30 seconds or less, I got scared away from trophies. I saw myself spending 30k on a trophy just to save myself who really knows how much or how little. Perhaps if I had no trouble making my first trophy, I would be more thrilled with them, or at least less fearful of them.

Better yet, if I had understood that I could save so much money doing old world idols though, I would have done jade idols until they trivialed once I got past opal steins.

[Kahmon]

I hit 250 tonight on the final combine of a stack which was 8 for 20. I think the best I ever did was about 65% successful and that was not very often. /shrug