Curious

[Roseroar]

I'm reasonably new to tradeskills. I'll admit that upfront. I've got a few points in all of them, but baking and pottery are the only ones I've worked over 100 so far. Baking just to make food for myself, and pottery I worked up to 122 in order to triv gate potions.

Anyway, after some weeks off from tradeskills from clicking my way to 122 pottery, I decided to take it up again. After looking at the list on this site, I figured I'd try to triv large bowls, a logical step using shop bought components.

However, it all went pretty badly lastnight. Now, a little background...

I'm a Bard. I don't have a huge int or wis, and nobody I've talked to is aware of any other stat required for pottery, so I didn't bother trying to max any out. (any combat stats I can cap to 255 fairly easily with buffs/songs)

With all my int gear, my tradeskill song and KEI, my int is only 148 and wis is 135. Pretty low, everyone tells me. I'm not a caster so int/wis have never been important to me, go figure.

Anyway, when I was getting pottery up to 122, with a ~120 int (before I got a new +10 int item and without KEI) I was getting 2-3 skillups per stack of combines. I got to 122 with about 100p or so, that was pretty good, I thought myself.

However trying large bowls lastnight, I was firstly shocked to note a stack of large bowl sketches cost ~31p, then after trying 5 stacks of combines, I only got 4 skillups. Is that remotely normal for this level of pottery? Obviously I figure at higher levels it gets a lot harder to skill up and costs a ton more, but I really didn't expect it to go so badly when I'm only moving one item up from the last I was working on.

Am I doing something wrong? Should I give up on tradeskills until I get myself some more int gear? Spending a few k on int gear to save myself 10's of k trying to GM pottery seems worth it if I have to do so.

Any suggestions or hints would be appreciated.

//Roseroar - Bard of Erollisi Marr (Saryrn)

[Ariene]

I did large bowls after medium for a couple stacks. Like you, it seemed logical to me. But it was way too expensive!

If you can find zombie skins, making vials is much cheaper and if you fire your sucesses you can probably sell them back and break even or make a profit. They stack too which makes them much easier than bowls. You can buy zombie skins from a merchant for 1 gold (if a player has sold them to the merchant ~ there isn't an actual zombie skin vendor). If you run around and get a few stacks then try your next pottery run you might feel better about it. Depending on your level you might be able to get xp while getting skins ~ quite a few drop in on the beach by the lighthouse in that zone I can never remember the name of.

Down with large bowls!

[Tinile]

Re: Curious

Anyway, after some weeks off from tradeskills from clicking my way to 122 pottery, I decided to take it up again. After looking at the list on this site, I figured I'd try to triv large bowls, a logical step using shop bought components.

Depending on how long ago you did your previous potting, you may be suffering from the pottery nerf. A few months ago, the lovely game designers decided to make pottery harder to skill up on, meaning more combines per skill up.

I'm a Bard. I don't have a huge int or wis, and nobody I've talked to is aware of any other stat required for pottery, so I didn't bother trying to max any out. (any combat stats I can cap to 255 fairly easily with buffs/songs)

With all my int gear, my tradeskill song and KEI, my int is only 148 and wis is 135. Pretty low, everyone tells me. I'm not a caster so int/wis have never been important to me, go figure.

I would suggest to get a "tradeskill outfit". All melee should have one. Since both your int and wis are at about the same level, you need to decide which you want to use for tradeskilling and buy some cheap stat enhancing items. Some items are really cheap to come by, like the +7 wis rings that are jewel crafted. Depending on what friends/guildies you have, I would imagine a friend would do the combine for you at component cost. I really think you should at least try to get wis or int up to the 200 area. You will notice a difference in skill ups.

However trying large bowls lastnight, I was firstly shocked to note a stack of large bowl sketches cost ~31p, then after trying 5 stacks of combines, I only got 4 skillups. Is that remotely normal for this level of pottery? Obviously I figure at higher levels it gets a lot harder to skill up and costs a ton more, but I really didn't expect it to go so badly when I'm only moving one item up from the last I was working on.

Ya, large bowls are evil. There is another post in this forum on cheap items to use for skilling up pottery. Check it out. http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2049 Be sure to read the entire thread as some more ideas in choices are posted later in the thread.

Good luck on your pottery quest. It is a long but fun road. (And expensive!)

Edit: added link.

[Roseroar]

Thanks for the suggestions. I think I'll work on getting a bit of int gear, and farm zombies for a few days. So just getting my int to 200ish(+) should improve my skillups noticably? I suppose it's best to try to get a tradeskill kit to max out my int. Perhaps I'll go about picking up as much int gear as I can get, shouldn't take me too long to get it over 200 at least.

Int is better for me to focus on since Bard's are int casters, so a lot of Bard gear has int on it anyway. I might be able to get some useful pieces of gear with int on it (like my drakkel wolf claws) instead of just getting int only items. Oh well, I'll work something out I guess.

On a laste note... Where is the info about the GM trophies? I've not been able to find them, was interested to know what the pottery trophy requires.

Thanks again.

//Roseroar - Bard of Erollisi Marr (Saryrn)

[Tinile]

Just scroll down on the recipe link page to Trophies.

http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_trophies.htm