240 /w Geerlok Vs. 250: does it affect successes on >250

[Icedreamer]

Heya,

My pottery skill recently broke 240 (woowoo!), and my question is:

Do the remaining pops to 250 affect my success at making items - in particular PoP items - whose trivial is listed as greater than 250; or does having a skill of 240 /w Geerlok produce the same success rate? A cap is a cap right?

Thanks in advance,

[Demorgoth]

According to current thinking (I believe this came direct from VI, ink prolly on the board somewhere), max effective skill is 252.

240 + 5% = 252 = 252 skill used in combine vs. trival calculations

250 + 5% = 262 = 252 skill used in combine vs. trival calculations

250 + 15% = 287 = 252 skill used in combine vs. trival calculations

Getting above 240 in any tradeskill is purely for pride and has no effect over using a geerlok or other mod

[aliboo]

You are suppose to hold it in your primary hand while making the pottery, correct? I would think if you have a geerlok in hand you should receive a trivial message on items that it boosts you past it's trivial. Tried it and it didn't give trivial message. Just a thought

[Tinile]

Skill mods do NOT affect your skill ups or triv levels. They pretend you are higher re success.

[Icedreamer]

max effective skill is 252...

Skill mods do NOT affect your skill ups or triv levels. They pretend you are higher re success.

So.... What Demorgoth said. This is what I've read in several places; that the skill mod of a Geerlok makes the last 10 pops just for personal achievement.

And what Tinile said: Geerlok only applies to increasing your success rate at making an item. I've also read this in many places and believe you.

Thanks for the replies, but I would ask you to please bear with me, because I'm not the sharpest pencil in the stack.

Let's say at max lvl 250 /w geerlok to cap at 252 you have a 50% chance of making a high end item that trivs above 250 (for S & Gs let's say 280). Along comes a person with a 240 skill. Does the algorithm compare the two lvls (in this case 240/280) calculate a success %, then check for any mods and add that to the success % and roll for success/fail.

OR... Does it check skill lvl (240), check for Skill mods to calculate equivalent adjusted lvl (252), compare the two (252/280), calculate a success % and roll for success/fail?

I'm no Math God by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm not certain that order might affect the final success %. In the hypothetical example above, the 240/280 compare might come out almost 45%. (PC rounding can be ugly). Then, with the 5% add of the Geerlok you would get something close, but not quite 50%.

So.... done one way it will be equal to 50%, but the other way it may be slightly < 50%.

This might be a waste of post space, unless I make a large number of items, I might not see any difference between making an item at 50% success/fail compared to 49% success/fail, but I was curious if anyone had noticed whether there was a discrepancy.

Thanks for your time,

[Icedreamer]

BAH !!!

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I did a little digging on THIS site, and found the answer posted by the Denmother.... sigh.

Here's the Link: http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42

Sorry about that, Ice waves his hand and says: 'This is not the post you were looking for' ....

[Morani]

Don't feel bad about asking; I've been wondering about the answer to your question too and have been watching closely to see it. SO, you may have answered your own question but now I know the answer too. Thanks.

[Obina]

Aye, but at 242 with Grandmasters trophy in hand, can I fairly call myself a grandmaster? Hee hee!

Obina